What do you have? (Video)
 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HYuxN3EF4u4

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I saw this on the facebook group. I'd like some of your thoughts.

I will repeat what I said on FB....

This is a big fat nothing.....

Block. Defender bellies up to initiate contact.

But in a 2p crew where the trail was late catching up, I can understand the no call. If you don't have an angle to see the belly-up and you see the dribbler brush off the side of the defender, you have to decipher between marginal block or flop.

Could have used a good C to see this better.

Either there is a sniper in the gym, or that was a major flop.

A defender in legal position who acts as if he has been displaced.
It's either a no-call or a technical foul for faking. The no-call seems better here.

floppity flop

Call me crazy but it looks to me like the shooter threw his right shoulder into the torso of the defender. I don't see the defender moving toward the shooter. He definitely embellished the falling but to me if it's anything it's a charge.

I love how all you can hear is women squeeling and yelling for the duration of the video. Oh, the hysteria.

Player control foul. Plays like this make me appreciate the fact that I don't have to work 2 person games anymore.

I'd have a temptation to offer a back brace to the defender - he may have hurt himself flopping that hard! . . .:)

His team should wear T-shirts instead of jerseys.

http://thesocietypages.org/pubcrim/f...r_the_flop.jpg

Defender is in LGP and stays feet set. Doesn't move so forward so can't lose LGP.

Defender is also allowed to turn or move backwards to brace/protect themselves. There was contact and this player does so dramatically and violently. Can't t a kid up for being soft.

Don't think there is enough to say PC. Player moves sideways to avoid contact, defenders reaction to contact took them out of the play not the contact itself. No call and play on.

Huh? The guy is still as a statue! Had the night off and went to watch a game. Saw one worse than this. Kid has LGP standing like a statue gets demolished. Honestly, we as officials collectively are having a negative influence on legal defense.

What Facebook group btw... I have been looking for a good officiating group on there.

There was a major carry at the division line.

Any video with the title "Best/Worst (X) Ever" needs to be taken with the entire salt mine.

It was difficult from the video to really tell if Gold was fouled by White. If there really was contact between Gold and White then it would have been a Charge by White.

BUT!! What in the Sam Hill was the L doing in the middle of the FT Lane Extended directly under the Basket. That is a major NO NO!

MTD, Sr.

'Good' might be debatable.

Yes I am sure that is what the coach is screaming about after this play.

Flop? Really?
 

I don't see how this is anything but a PC foul. Defense establishes LGP, feet are still as can be, maybe leans back a little before contact but doesn't move forward, and takes the contact in the torso. Maybe he tried to sell it a little (or a lot), which may be why he didn't get the call.

If you aren't sold that there was contact, watch the video again and focus on the offensive player. His momentum and direction change as he tries to go around the defense. He bounces backward, proving there was contact, which was initiated by the offensive player.

L may have had a tough view to make the call... 1) because it is 2-man, and 2) because he's directly under the basket!

I agree with the thought that this was a player control foul. However, if you are in the group that says it is nothing, how do you not call the travel before the shot? The offensive player jumped into the defensive player and then his right foot lands before he shoots.

I have a PC foul. The Lead has pinched way too much, to the point that he is a couple steps into the paint and has straight-lined himself to the contact.

PC foul, most likely. The defender does flop and the angle makes it difficult to tell just how much the offensive player got him vs. how much of it was a flop. One thing is for sure, however, it was NOT a block.

This!

It looks to me like there is enough contact for a PC call, but it's hard to tell from that angle. I've got no problem with a no call here either as the defender clearly exaggerated contact. Lead would have had a better angle than in the video to tell how much contact there really was and how much was the defender exaggerating the contact.

I don't think the defender did anything to lose LGP so I would not agree with a block and certainly not a T for faking. There is a difference between faking being fouled and exaggerating contact.

Player control. Defender establishes and maintains LGP and I think the offensive player initiates the contact and goes through the defenders space. Exaggeration ≠ no foul.

I don't see anyone suggesting there was no contact. But contact, in and of itself, does not mean there was a foul.

Please explain how you determined there was a travel here. What you described has nothing to do with the elements of a traveling violation.

As for the play, my initial reaction was nothing. After several replays I could be convinced it was a PC but its really difficult to judge by the camera angle.

PC if anything.

PC all the way! Not a flop by the defender, he embellished the contact but there was still enough contact to displace him. The offensive player's balance was disrupted by the contact he initiated. Punch it!