New thread: Karl Hess out of ACC

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Well apparently it matters if he made a ethnic or racial slur to some. So I guess to the right person it is defensible.

Peace

You already know this, but some opinions matter more than others.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Adam

You already know this, but some opinions matter more than others.

Based on the reaction of some, we should not talk about this anymore. I do not want to offend anyone.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Based on the reaction of some, we should not talk about this anymore. I do not want to offend anyone.

Peace

That discussion was a disaster from the moment it turned into an irrelevant dissertation on the definition of "slur."

Let it go.

[chymechowder]

Originally Posted by Adam

You already know this, but some opinions matter more than others.

shades of "Some animals are more equal than others."

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Adam

That discussion was a disaster from the moment it turned into an irrelevant dissertation on the definition of "slur."

Let it go.

We are having the same discussion here. I think people here have a problem discussing things they do not understand. And that is why guys like Hess keeps getting in trouble for what they say.

Peace

[maroonx]

Any time an old white man/woman makes a racial slur some how its always dismissed as irrelevant. (Al Campanis, Jimmy the Greek, Marge Schott on and on and on). Some people in this world want to maintain their privilege no matter what.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by maroonx

Any time an old white man/woman makes a racial slur some how its always dismissed as irrelevant. (Al Campanis, Jimmy the Greek, Marge Schott on and on and on). Some people in this world want to maintain their privilege no matter what.

Truer words have never been spoken (in this thread for sure).

Peace

[scrounge]

Originally Posted by maroonx

Any time an old white man/woman makes a racial slur some how its always dismissed as irrelevant. (Al Campanis, Jimmy the Greek, Marge Schott on and on and on). Some people in this world want to maintain their privilege no matter what.

That isn't true in the slightest. Al and Jimmy were forced to resign under pressure and fired, respectively. Marge Schott was ridiculed, suspended, and forced to sell her team from her idiocy.

I completely agree with the firing of Hess and generally agree with JRut in the prev thread, but to say that it was dismissed is objectively and completely wrong.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by scrounge

That isn't true in the slightest. Al and Jimmy were forced to resign under pressure and fired, respectively. Marge Schott was ridiculed, suspended, and forced to sell her team from her idiocy.

I completely agree with the firing of Hess and generally agree with JRut in the prev thread, but to say that it was dismissed is objectively and completely wrong.

I am old enough to remember when those individuals were fired or suspended and people tried to explain away the action by their employers or company, who is doing things to not be associated with such comments in any way. Even what happened to Donald Sterling was said by many (not necessarily here) that he should have never been forced to lose his franchise, when business were fleeing that franchise left and right and their association with the NBA if he stayed.

Hess said this to the wrong guy. He was a former trustee and someone with connections to the school and probably to those in the conference as well. If the conference had allowed Hess to stay, this could have come into situations with sponsors and others with big money playing a role into this decision. And let us face it, officials are very replaceable. We are not the coaches or even the players. They can find any guy to do what Hess does without the controversy. As much as I respect what those guys do at that level, there are 100 guys that can easily replace them and no one would notice but maybe a coach.

Peace

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Well apparently it matters if he made a ethnic or racial slur to some. So I guess to the right person it is defensible.



Peace

Someone is eaten up.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I am old enough to remember when those individuals were fired or suspended and people tried to explain away the action by their employers or company, who is doing things to not be associated with such comments in any way. Even what happened to Donald Sterling was said by many (not necessarily here) that he should have never been forced to lose his franchise, when business were fleeing that franchise left and right and their association with the NBA if he stayed.

Hess said this to the wrong guy. He was a former trustee and someone with connections to the school and probably to those in the conference as well. If the conference had allowed Hess to stay, this could have come into situations with sponsors and others with big money playing a role into this decision. And let us face it, officials are very replaceable. We are not the coaches or even the players. They can find any guy to do what Hess does without the controversy. As much as I respect what those guys do at that level, there are 100 guys that can easily replace them and no one would notice but maybe a coach.

Peace

Completely agree.

[JRutledge]

No, just think it was silly for you to try to play games with what kind of slur was made. Either "slur" classification are taking very seriously by certainly universities and most companies if such comments are ever made public.

Peace