New thread: Karl Hess out of ACC

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by johnny d

That is a great standard to strive for, unfortunately just like every other aspect of officiating and life, it is impossible to accomplish. I am sorry, but military background or not, I am sure you are just like every other person on this planet and have had lapses in professionalism at one point or another.

Sure. Doesn't happen very often, but when it does, I am held accountable for it because I am in a position of leadership. I accept that.

You make the argument that the fan was somehow just as culpable as Hess because he was being an @$$hole. I disagree. Hess was the leader in this situation. The accountability is his alone.

To his credit, Hess accepted responsibility for his actions. He even gave up games in other conferences. Whether he was "highly encouraged" to do this or not doesn't matter to me. The fact is that he did it. I respect that.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

Sure. Doesn't happen very often, but when it does, I am held accountable for it because I am in a position of leadership. I accept that.

You make the argument that the fan was somehow just as culpable as Hess because he was being an @$$hole. I disagree. Hess was the leader in this situation. The accountability is his alone.

To his credit, Hess accepted responsibility for his actions. He even gave up games in other conferences. Whether he was "highly encouraged" to do this or not doesn't matter to me. The fact is that he did it. I respect that.

I did not say or mean to imply the fan was culpable or expected to act in the same professional manner that Hess was. I just pointed out the fact that it takes an exceptional ass wipe to hurl insults at some one and then cry foul when that person responds with an insult.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by johnny d

I did not say or mean to imply the fan was culpable or expected to act in the same professional manner that Hess was. I just pointed out the fact that it takes an exceptional ass wipe to hurl insults at some one and then cry foul when that person responds with an insult.

Well then you allow him to win when you make those kinds of comments. You could have gotten rid of his behind if he was a problem. But then again why pay that close attention to them in the first place?

Peace

[SC Official]

I think we are getting too caught up in THIS instance. This was not the only incident that led to this outcome; this was, rather, the final straw for the ACC. Let's not forget that Hess has a history which includes ignoring protocol for dealing with fans, ejecting a coach for pointing out a shot clock error, and the brutal error of lining up the teams the wrong way.

Like BNR, I am not a believer that we should have to be stone-faced while coaches and fans lay into us. And I actually very much respect Hess's "no-nonsense" mentality when he works games. But he, even as a "big dog," is not immune to the consequences of his actions, as he admitted. If this was an isolated incident, I doubt the ACC would've canned him. And I do think the CEO was being a little bit of a crybaby on social media. Regardless, Hess cannot say what he said, and his history led to this outcome.

He'll take the rest of this season off, then he'll come back next season with a new primary conference.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Well then you allow him to win when you make those kinds of comments. You could have gotten rid of his behind if he was a problem. But then again why pay that close attention to them in the first place?

Peace

This is why I suggest fans be removed once they become a distraction, and before they cause us to lose our composure.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by johnny d

I did not say or mean to imply the fan was culpable or expected to act in the same professional manner that Hess was. I just pointed out the fact that it takes an exceptional ass wipe to hurl insults at some one and then cry foul when that person responds with an insult.

I agree with this.