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mutantducky Tue Dec 23, 2014 08:51pm
what do you call this signal?
 
I calls it awesome :D

go to the 2.58 mark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti2Ncll2K64#t=191

OKREF Tue Dec 23, 2014 09:01pm
That's awesome

StripedYooper Tue Dec 23, 2014 09:09pm
Don't show that to Joey Crawford.

jmwking Tue Dec 23, 2014 09:27pm
Reminds me of Lou Bello! A friend of my parents, a good man, and a - well - "dynamic" ref.

-jk

Welpe Tue Dec 23, 2014 09:33pm
So that's where High Stress Ref got his mechanic from.

RefCT Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:12pm
Free throw
 
The underhand free throw was the icing on that cake. Thanks for sharing.

JRutledge Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:39pm
It is so weird. They did not wait on anything, they just put the ball in play as quick as possible.

Peace

zm1283 Wed Dec 24, 2014 02:40am
I am totally doing that in my next game. So awesome...

Sharpshooternes Wed Dec 24, 2014 07:12am
This is freaking fantastic.
I swear the officials high five each other at the 3:45 mark. Their mechanics and movements are very fluid. I actually like it. They sure don't hang back out of bounds in transition from lead to trail.

at 4:20 the lead is like "yep YOU GOT SWATTED!!! We are going that way son!"

LRZ Wed Dec 24, 2014 09:41am
Is that Norm Drucker? Early NBA refs had personalities: Sid Borgia, Joe Gushue, Mendy Rudolph, Earl Strom, Richie Powers. I've always thought it regrettable that we've been trained to restrain ourselves in the interest of "uniformity."

mutantducky Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:20pm
I agree. They all seem bald or short hair, often slicked, with little body fat. The quality seems pretty good actually but I'd like a little more personality. I recognize a few of the under 40's but most of them are just blending together and I can't tell them apart.

OKREF Wed Dec 24, 2014 01:59pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes (Post 947738)
This is freaking fantastic.
at 4:20 the lead is like "yep YOU GOT SWATTED!!! We are going that way son!"
It's great. He's like oh yea, that way

mutantducky Wed Dec 24, 2014 02:50pm
ok....I may get criticized for this but you know I think I'm going to try the following. I see the lead ref is often in the middle of the key. So when they run down he sets himself in the middle. On a two person crew I think this can be a good idea and the ref can simply shift over depending on where the play goes which they are doing in this video.
I've found I haven't been in the post position to see fouls when I'm lead and I'm staying outside the key area. Yes, I can move over but it would be easier to set up in that middle area and then shift back and forth.

Lcubed48 Fri Dec 26, 2014 08:34am
I remember when...
 
A couple of other things that stand out in that video - 1) the collared shirts, and 2) the T administers the FT. I wonder how many members here have never administered a FT from the trail?

crosscountry55 Fri Dec 26, 2014 08:52am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lcubed48 (Post 947849)
A couple of other things that stand out in that video - 1) the collared shirts, and 2) the T administers the FT. I wonder how many members here have never administered a FT from the trail?
I called my first season in 1997-98 (before taking a 10 year break for military service), and if I recall correctly, I believe the T still handed the ball to the thrower for the first free throw. I think it was shortly thereafter that the mechanic was changed to "L administers all FTs."

BillyMac Fri Dec 26, 2014 03:50pm
The Cadillac Position ...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lcubed48 (Post 947849)
I wonder how many members here have never administered a FT from the trail?
http://youtu.be/-cDAqrywsHE

Count me in. With no regard to table side, or opposite table side, always from the shooter's left side.

Rich Fri Dec 26, 2014 04:32pm
Here's a game played in 1987-88, which was my first season. Entertaining to watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPFH8vUoD-E

And, FAN-SHAPED BACKBOARD!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGkvzRRzuEI

AremRed Sun Dec 28, 2014 02:31am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 947724)
So that's where High Stress Ref got his mechanic from.
That was painful to watch. I would post the link but I don't want any of you to have to watch that.

Mark Padgett Mon Dec 29, 2014 03:58pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by LRZ (Post 947742)
Is that Norm Drucker?
Yes, it is. There's a link on his Wikipedia page to a photo of him wearing number 7 (you can see that in the above video) with Wilt and some others in the photo.

WhistlesAndStripes Fri Jan 02, 2015 12:30am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 947724)
So that's where High Stress Ref got his mechanic from.
Quote:
Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 947993)
That was painful to watch. I would post the link but I don't want any of you to have to watch that.
I'll get it:


High Stress Ref

Kansas Ref Fri Jan 02, 2015 03:37pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 947880)
http://youtu.be/-cDAqrywsHE

Count me in. With no regard to table side, or opposite table side, always from the shooter's left side.
?what is meant by the "cadillac position" ?
I could venture a guess, but what I come up with is prolly incorrect.
anyone ever used or heard of this terminology?

Camron Rust Fri Jan 02, 2015 03:58pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kansas Ref (Post 948445)
?what is meant by the "cadillac position" ?
I could venture a guess, but what I come up with is prolly incorrect.
anyone ever used or heard of this terminology?
Yes, that refers to the mechanics last used in about 1994 or so where the officials would always shift to get lead and trail on a specific side of the lane. This was for 2-person mechanics...not sure what 3-person did at the time.

The lane would be to the right of each official from each official's view. Even if the throwin was such that it would put the officials opposite sides, they would, during a live ball, rotate with the lead crossing the lane to the other side and the trail crossing across the top to get back to the Cadillac position. That rotation was triggered by the trail, IIRC.

I believe there was some thought that, since there were far more right handed players than left handed players, more drives came down the right side of the lane and it put the lead in a better position to see those drives. In the past, perhaps that was the case, but now players at the HS level are more equally adept at driving using either hand to dribble in.

BillyMac Fri Jan 02, 2015 05:22pm
Camron Rust Nailed It ...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 948450)
Yes, that referes to the mechanics last used in about 1994 or so where the officials would always shift to get lead and trail on a specific side of the lane. This was for 2-person mechanics...not sure what 3-person did at the time.

The lane would be to the right of each official from each official's view. Even if the throwin was such that it would put the officials opposite sides, they would, during a live ball, rotate with the lead crossing the lane to the other side and the trail crossing across the top to get back to the Cadillac position. That rotation was triggered by the trail, IIRC. This was for 2-person mechanics...not sure what 3-person did at the time.

I believe there was some though that, since there were far more right handed players than left handed players, more drives came down the right side of the lane and it put the lead in a better position to see those drives. In the past, perhaps that was the case, but now players at the HS level are more equally adept at driving using either hand to dribble in.
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