Kentucky-Belmont Women 2:40 left in game Continuous Motion (Video)

[ZonaZebra]

First, a big thanks to jeschmit for finding and posting the clip.

The reason I was interested in this clip is due to the fact that recently in my observations provided to me by certified officials they have commented on how they think I am too liberal with my continuation rulings.

I just happened to be flipping through games and by luck caught this play. I believe I would have made the same ruling, but was interested to see what others thought.

I believe there was also a follow up replay of this which showed the angle from the endline and it brought up another issue which you can't see too well from the currently posted clip. The issue concerns a potential travel. I would be interested in hearing other thoughts on this. If a player travels on a continuation play then the goal could not count, is that correct? Of course, the player would then be entitled to two free throws, right?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by ZonaZebra

If a player travels on a continuation play then the goal could not count, is that correct? Of course, the player would then be entitled to two free throws, right?

Yes. Yes.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

If there was contact, and I do mean IF, the contact was while White-3 was still dribbling. And if there was contact, and I do mean IF, I have a charge by White-3 against Blue-12.

MTD, Sr.


P.S. I do not wish it denigrate our members who are currently officiating women's college basketball, but please do not bring the LDB in to the discussion of this play, because I am getting ready to leave for a game and I currently do not have time to prove the ignorance of the people on the NCAA-W Rules Committee of the history and reasoning behind the definition of Guarding, who are trying to hoist a piece of horse manure upon the game of basketball.

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

...I currently do not have time to prove the ignorance of the people on the NCAA-W Rules Committee of the history and reasoning behind the definition of Guarding, who are trying to hoist a piece of horse manure upon the game of basketball.

Huh. Haven't been on much this season, but is this a thing that's come up a lot around here lately? Because, for the record, it came about before this season for NCAA-W, and originated in and was drawn from the NBA.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP

Huh. Haven't been on much this season, but is this a thing that's come up a lot around here lately? Because, for the record, it came about before this season for NCAA-W, and originated in and was drawn from the NBA.

Don't worry about it. Sometimes MTD has a hard time refraining from editorializing while giving history lessons.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by johnny d

Sometimes MTD has a hard time refraining from editorializing while giving history lessons.

"Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it."

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

"Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it."

History shouldn't be repeated if it's an outdated rule.

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by ZonaZebra

If a player travels on a continuation play then the goal could not count, is that correct? Of course, the player would then be entitled to two free throws, right?

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Yes. Yes.

While I do agree with your response, I'm not sure I've ever actually seen a foul on a shot/drive which was followed by a travel and attempt, that got waved off, yet 2 free throws were awarded. I understand and agree with the intent of the rule, I'm just not sure I've ever seen, and I know I've never called it. Have you or anyone called this, or called it often??

[bainsey]

Foxtrot, Lima, Oscar, Papa.

[jeschmit]

[just another ref]

I still see a foul. I still don't see how you count the basket.

[Nevadaref]

Blocking foul for really poor acting, no travel, and count the basket, plus award one FT as this gives the defender the maximum punishment.

Can you tell that I don't like attempts to deceive the officials?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I still see a foul. I still don't see how you count the basket.

From this angle, it is much easier to tell. If you call that foul, you can not also award the shot.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by jeschmit

From that angle I see a block. But W3 was still dribbling the ball when the foul occured.

MTD, Sr.

[Pantherdreams]

From the tape:

If its in may game its probably a no call and count the hoop.

If I am calling a foul its a block on the defender and ball out of bounds.