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SC Official Sun Dec 07, 2014 05:24pm

Clemson/Arkansas block/charge play (Video)
 
Right around the 12:00 mark in the first half, PC call against Clemson from the lead.

Another one called a block at 1:02 in first half.

And another one called PC at 16:11 in second half.

JetMetFan Tue Dec 09, 2014 02:38am

video added
 
Here are the plays.


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Blindolbat Tue Dec 09, 2014 03:40am

Looks like PC in all 3 to me, but the real question is why do all the charge mechanics in this video look like they're counting the basket.

Sharpshooternes Tue Dec 09, 2014 05:30am

1. Block
2. Charge.
3. No call or block

I think one and three look as if the offensive player changes direction to avoid contact but the defender keeps moving in the same direction illegally. To me play one it was enough for there to be a called block. Play three I think is a flop, thus the no call, unless there is enough contact (hard to tell from the angle) to warrant a block being called.

AremRed Tue Dec 09, 2014 08:23am

Play 1: Charge

Play 2: Charge

Play 3: No-call

Raymond Tue Dec 09, 2014 08:54am

1) PC (someone tell me what the defender did wrong if you have a block)

2) Block, defender moves slightly into A1 once he is airborne. Look for the contact to A1's legs

3) PC

Raymond Tue Dec 09, 2014 08:57am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blindolbat (Post 946152)
Looks like PC in all 3 to me, but the real question is why do all the charge mechanics in this video look like they're counting the basket.

They look like punches to me.

bob jenkins Tue Dec 09, 2014 08:58am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes (Post 946154)
I think one and three look as if the offensive player changes direction to avoid contact but the defender keeps moving in the same direction illegally.

What do you mean by that ? I don't follow.

ballgame99 Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:15am

1 - agree on PC

2 - PC, defender looks to have LGP to me.

3 - PC, assuming the contact is there. Hard to tell from that angle, but he has LGP, offensive player trys to avoid but looks like he still makes contact with left shoulder.

zm1283 Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:30am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 946163)
1) PC (someone tell me what the defender did wrong if you have a block)

2) Block, defender moves slightly into A1 once he is airborne. Look for the contact to A1's legs

3) PC

I have the same on all three. #2 was very close but I agree the defender was slightly moving toward A1 as he leaves the floor.

I have no idea how you could have a block on #1.

Some have said no-call on #3. Why is that? Not saying you're wrong, just curious.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:41am

1) Charge.

2) Charge. (Defender's feet were in contact with the court before offensive player went airborne.

3) Charge.

MTD, Sr.

JRutledge Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:51am

All three are charges. Not sure how the one was called a block. The only issue with the first one was the RA, but it appears to not be close, just would have liked a different angle to confirm that part.

Peace

Raymond Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:53am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 946177)
...

2) Charge. (Defender's feet were in contact with the court before offensive player went airborne.
...

MTD, Sr.

That's the only requirement for drawing a charge? Subsequent actions don't matter?

Pantherdreams Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:56am

1)Charge
2) Charge
3) Hard to tell from camera angle about amount of contact but seems like a charge/ no call.

billyu2 Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:34am

All three are so close to being identical I would go with the "call similar plays similar ways" philosophy.


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