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Old Sat Dec 06, 2014, 12:56pm
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Womens UCONN/UW Greenbay-Table Crash (Video)

Video Request: UCONN/WISC Green Bay..SportsChannel NY..12:37 2ND

Loose Ball Hard Crash into the table. Who should Foul be on? or no foul?

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Old Sun Dec 07, 2014, 12:38am
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Here's the video:



The way Geno reacted, I'm assuming the foul was called on Stewart.
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Old Sun Dec 07, 2014, 12:45am
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I can be convinced either way as I think the loose ball fouls are the hardest calls for me to make personally, but I think I would call a foul on white (you guys are right) for going into and through the white player. If she just goes for the ball, it's nothing but it looks like,tome that she initiates contact with the white player to prevent her from getting the ball.

The thing that bugs me about these plays is if you do all a foul the coach ALWAYS says, "It's a loose ball. There can't be a foul!!"

What pearls of wisdom do you all have for adjudicating these plays properly and what do you say to coaches who think this?

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Old Sun Dec 07, 2014, 01:34am
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I can be convinced either way as I think the loose ball fouls are the hardest calls for me to make personally, but I think I would call a foul on blue for going into and through the white player. If she just goes for the ball, it's nothing but it looks like,tome that she initiates contact with the white player to prevent her from getting the ball.

The thing that bugs me about these plays is if you do all a foul the coach ALWAYS says, "It's a loose ball. There can't be a foul!!"

What pearls of wisdom do you all have for adjusting these plays properly and what do you say to coaches who think this?

I highly suggest that you take another look at the video. Blue is on her feet and running in a straight line toward the ball and has the more advantageous route and position relative to White as they both advance toward the ball. White dives and takes Blue's legs out from under her. Blocking or pushing foul on White.

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Old Sun Dec 07, 2014, 01:45am
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i highly suggest that you take another look at the video. Blue is on her feet and running in a straight line toward the ball and has the more advantageous route and position relative to white as they both advance toward the ball. White dives and takes blue's legs out from under her. Blocking or pushing foul on white.

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Old Sun Dec 07, 2014, 02:44am
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Old Sun Dec 07, 2014, 10:13am
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What pearls of wisdom do you all have for adjusting these plays properly and what do you say to coaches who think this?
Use the rulebook verbiage. Keep it to five words or fewer (when possible).

As far as adjudicating (I think that's what you meant when you said "adjusting"), watch the players, not the ball.

Oh -- I agree it's a foul on white.
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Old Sun Dec 07, 2014, 10:34am
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I have a foul on white, if a foul is called.
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Old Sun Dec 07, 2014, 02:29pm
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The thing that bugs me about these plays is if you do all a foul the coach ALWAYS says, "It's a loose ball. There can't be a foul!!"
Yesterday, I had a 7th grade girls game where the visiting coach wanted a "loose ball foul" called. If only such a thing existed in the NFHS rule book.

On-topic, I'd have a foul on white as well. It's possible the L & T might be straightlined through no fault of their own to be able to make that call. I agree with Rich's comments about angle and closing distance to sell the call.
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