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Old Thu Nov 27, 2014, 08:36pm
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The contact was both excessive and violent. He clearly kicked out at the player. Flagrant 2 and the ejection are warranted.
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Old Fri Nov 28, 2014, 01:18am
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The contact was both excessive and violent. He clearly kicked out at the player. Flagrant 2 and the ejection are warranted.
100% agree. I was watching this when it happened and thought the same. After watching it about 25 times from different angles and in slo-mo I still think the same. We can't decide intent here. What we can see is that his leg kicks out in a violent manner then nails the guy in the head. This is textbook excessive to me.
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Old Fri Nov 28, 2014, 01:40am
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Add my vote to the Flagrant 1 side.
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Old Fri Nov 28, 2014, 01:50am
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Looks violent and savage to me. He's gotta go.
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Old Fri Nov 28, 2014, 11:08am
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It would be very insightful to know the conversation that was had by this crew, with 55 years experience combined, that led them to the conclusion that this was not upgrade worthy.
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Old Fri Nov 28, 2014, 12:11pm
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It would be very insightful to know the conversation that was had by this crew, with 55 years experience combined, that led them to the conclusion that this was not upgrade worthy.
Agreed, I'd love to get their perspective, as for me, the only real discussion should be between F1 and F2.
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Old Fri Nov 28, 2014, 01:25pm
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In NFHS, I'd be leaning towards a flagrant here. It definitely meets the standard at least of excessive contact.
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Old Fri Nov 28, 2014, 09:21pm
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Just thought I'd add the regular-speed version and the other angles (if only to prove I'm actually posting clips...)

These would also be (some of) the angles the crew saw courtside.





I go FF2 on this one. Apart from the rule book definition a few weeks ago I heard Mark Jackson give a description as to why a player in an NBA game deserved an F2: "If you do that in the playground, the game is over." If this happened in the playground, the game is over.
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Old Sat Nov 29, 2014, 02:13am
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If that's not a FF1 (NCAA)/Intentional (FED) I don't know what is.
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Old Sat Nov 29, 2014, 09:39am
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Saw the play live - which seemed like a common foul…and then was amazed that the crew (led by Ed Corbett) decided that it was NOT a FF1 or FF2.

Surely this play HAS to be deemed "excessive contact"...
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