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tlavan Mon Nov 24, 2014 01:18pm

Free Thrower being boxed out (Video)
 
Does anyone have a rules reference to the penalty (if any) of a defender in a marked lane space boxing out the free throw shooter? May the player break the plane of the free throw line? May he/she make contact? Violation? Foul?

I understand that dislodging would be a foul for sure, but is the player in the marked lane space required to wait until it HITS now to break the free throw line since the free throw shooter must wait?

Thanks!

Tim

Zoochy Mon Nov 24, 2014 01:40pm

Read this thread
 
http://forum.officiating.com/basketb...staff-mtg.html
This might help? Or confuse!

BillyMac Mon Nov 24, 2014 04:59pm

Probably Confuse ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoochy (Post 944597)
This might help? Or confuse!

And this:

http://forum.officiating.com/basketb...tml#post941796

Power Point slide: If there is contact on the free throw shooter by the defender who breaks the free throw line plane, ignore contact unless intentional. (9-1-3-B)

BktBallRef Mon Nov 24, 2014 05:02pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tlavan (Post 944594)
Does anyone have a rules reference to the penalty (if any) of a defender in a marked lane space boxing out the free throw shooter? May the player break the plane of the free throw line? May he/she make contact? Violation? Foul?

I understand that dislodging would be a foul for sure, but is the player in the marked lane space required to wait until it HITS now to break the free throw line since the free throw shooter must wait?

Thanks!

Tim

Restrictions end for those along the lane when the shot is released.

Dislodging or pushing is a foul.

That about covers it.

BillyMac Mon Nov 24, 2014 05:08pm

It Depends On Where You Officiate ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 944633)
Restrictions end for those along the lane when the shot is released.

In almost all jurisdictions, but not all.

Zoochy Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:00pm

So how are the rules written for NCAA Men and women? NCAA Players in marked spaces are allowed to enter the lane upon release

Adam Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:20pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 944632)
And this:

http://forum.officiating.com/basketb...tml#post941796

Power Point slide: If there is contact on the free throw shooter by the defender who breaks the free throw line plane, ignore contact unless intentional. (9-1-3-B)

This is solely a CT ruling, and has no basis in the rules. I wouldn't even bother posting it here where people who don't live in CT might get confused.

BillyMac Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:40am

Iaabo ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 944675)
This is solely a CT ruling, and has no basis in the rules. I wouldn't even bother posting it here where people who don't live in CT might get confused.

It may be more. Not a lot more, but certainly a possibility in some other IAABO states. I'm fairly sure that Peter Webb had something to do with this:

http://forum.officiating.com/basketb...tml#post944383

Adam's warning to check your local listings is still a good one.

Freddy Wed Dec 03, 2014 02:52pm

This happened last night, which seemed to be on topic.
Seems we adjudicated it correctly.
Defender Displaces FT Shooter

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BillyMac Wed Dec 03, 2014 06:37pm

Free Throw Is Successful ...
 
Nice video. Thanks Freddy.

If the defender had waited another split second before making contact, the ball would be dead (successful free throw) and the official would have to decide if the foul was intentional (no common fouls during the dead ball period after a successful try, the contact must be intentional, or flagrant, to be charged).

Also, in Connecticut, this would have been a delayed violation for the marked lane space defender breaking the pane of the free throw line before the ball hit the rim or backboard (IAABO Connecticut Only: No opponent occupying a marked lane space shall break the plane of the free throw line until the ball touches the ring, or backboard, or until the free throw ends. If there is contact on the free throw shooter by the defender who breaks the free throw line plane, ignore contact unless intentional).

In states that don't end in "icut: Would the official award another free throw if the throw was unsuccessful due to disconcertion? The contact was made after the release, so how could the contact be disconcerting?

ballgame99 Thu Dec 04, 2014 09:29am

There is a question on this on this year's part 2 exam. I wish I could remember the exact question and my answer. It was one of those that wasn't cut and dried. If anyone hasn't taken it, please take note of that question and answer, but the gist was that the defender couldn't cross the free throw line until the ball hit rim.

Raymond Thu Dec 04, 2014 09:31am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 944683)
It may be more. Not a lot more, but certainly a possibility in some other IAABO states. I'm fairly sure that Peter Webb had something to do with this:

http://forum.officiating.com/basketb...tml#post944383

Adam's warning to check your local listings is still a good one.

Is it clearly published in an IAABO rule book, or are you guys working off word of mouth?

PG_Ref Thu Dec 04, 2014 11:14am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 945569)
Is it clearly published in an IAABO rule book, or are you guys working off word of mouth?

E-mail traffic from the IAABO gods (And an IAABO published caseplay)

BillyMac Thu Dec 04, 2014 04:52pm

Loyal Order Of Water Buffaloes Lodge No. 26 ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PG_Ref (Post 945588)
E-mail traffic from the IAABO gods (And an IAABO published caseplay)

They're not gods. They're grand poobahs.

The caseplay was published in the fall issue of the Sportorial, IAABO's quarterly magazine.


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