Alley Oop & Rim Grab (video)

[Adam]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Grabbing the rim to gain an advantage is the T. Did he gain an advantage?

Is an actual advantage required to be in violation of the rule?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Adam

Is an actual advantage required to be in violation of the rule?

No. It is the attempt to gain and advantage that is the infraction.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Adam

Is an actual advantage required to be in violation of the rule?

one part of the rule says may not "grasp" or grab basket. except to prevent injury. just below another section says you can't place a hand on the backboard or ring to gain an advantage.

[JRutledge]

I think you could make a case that he is grabbing the rim not to go flying and get hurt. But if he tries to grab the ball and grabbing the rim at the same time, you could make a case this is a T. The question I have is does he really even make a play on the ball. He might have tried to do just that, but I would not likely make this call without some clear evidence he actually made a play on the ball.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I think you could make a case that he is grabbing the rim not to go flying and get hurt. But if he tries to grab the ball and grabbing the rim at the same time, you could make a case this is a T. The question I have is does he really even make a play on the ball. He might have tried to do just that, but I would not likely make this call without some clear evidence he actually made a play on the ball.

Peace

Plus, sometimes no whistle and continued action is not the worst result.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Plus, sometimes no whistle and continued action is not the worst result.

Agreed.

I know I had two of these plays take place last year where the ball was grabbed as well and I called a T in both cases. This looks more like a "miss" attempt and there was a player under him on some level.

Peace

[BryanV21]

While a tech on that player may not be in play, what about a tech on the team or coach for taking advantage of the situation?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

While a tech on that player may not be in play, what about a tech on the team or coach for taking advantage of the situation?

You either are going to call a T on the play or not do anything. You cannot just call a T because of what is coached.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

While a tech on that player may not be in play, what about a tech on the team or coach for taking advantage of the situation?

how so, what did he do?