Duke v Michigan State Block/Charge (Video)
 

2:14 remaining in 1st half.

Is this the one where the C called the block in front of coach? I was more intrigued that he immediately signaled block and didn't give lead 1st crack at it. Even though lead was on other side of paint I thought typically lead would have the prelim and C goes fist in air and takes it if lead has nothing but must be they covered that in Pregame

Can you tell us a little about the play?

There was also a pass and crash that was no-called at about the 4:05 mark in the first half on MSU's end. Thought it would be a good play for discussion.

It was a clear charge that was called a block by the C (Terry Wymer). I think he was little surprised that the contact/play happened the way it did. Someone will post the video here soon…

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Charge.

Outside of the paint, so definitely the C's play all the way. I can see why he came with a block if he only focused on the defenders upper body.

I'm not fond of his spot on the floor. A couple of steps towards the end line and maybe he has a better look.

But we all miss one now and then and Wymer is one of the best.

If he stepped toward the end line I think he would have a worse view of potential defenders in his PCA. Stepping onto the court towards the basket would be more effective here IMO.

I think this is a charge either way. He was there before the player started their upward motion (not the rule anymore) and was waiting on the contact. I think the official was surprised by the contact and just called a block.

I also would have liked to have seen the lead rotate here, but they would have gotten there late. The C has this all the way.

Peace

Not leads call
 

Correct me if I am wrong but the OP said lead should have taken the call. That call is C's and I feel he missed it.

You are only wrong in the fact that the OP is not the one who said that.

My apologies.

Travel:)

In your opinion. Not in mine.

It's a travel first, then a PC

Duh, that's why I wrote "IMO". :)

Hard to tell on the clip but it appears that perhaps the offensive player was fouled by the primary defender. Is it possible this had anything to do with the decision to go with a block? Not necessarily a makeup call but more of the brain will still processing the initial play.

You might mean secondary defender. offense went around first player. guy who attempted to take charge came from help side..

In a college game your always aware of the arc/help side defense when someone is on way to rim but in this case the contact was far enough away from the arc that I personally doubt its a factor here. possible, i suppose not sure what he is thinking obviously...
i'm with badnews for most part on maybe why block called-- top half of defender flies to right and back somewhat on contact. rather than straight back. offensive player is trying to jump around him. looks a bit weird up top. he seems to be looking right at it so I'm not seeing him surprised etc.

maybe after his partner didn't call the charge against green less than two minutes earlier he decided there would be no charges that night…at least not for awhile longer:)

No, it wasn't a make-up call. I think what happened was that B1's contact with A1 made him pause for a second, and then he picked up B2 too late.

I didn't mean secondary defender. I was saying that it appears that the first player the offense goes around may have fouled him.

i was sharp as a marble on that one wasn't i...:eek:

lol

Update
 

So this play was covered in a video bulletin by john Adams and obviously as we all know it was a player control foul however as stated previously he also said this should have been the leads call because it was a secondary defender. Doesn't matter if it's outside of paint. Only the C's call if it was primary...

I disagree with Mr. Adams in regards to the Lead on this play.

Me too. C all the way.

personally, I don't really care who calls it - this needs to be a charge.

preferably this is the leads call: 1) a secondary defender is involved (too hard for C to look past primary defender - who got beat and past offensive player to find the secondary defender to determine if he has LGP and is outside RA); and 2) plays are almost always easier to officiate when they are coming TOWARDS you rather than AWAY from you.

In this case, it would be too much of a reach for lead IMO to grab this. If he had closed down somewhat, possibly. Also, C has a much better angle than lead, surprised he called block.

I'm not a fan of reaching across the paint.

In this case, it would be too much of a reach for lead IMO to grab this. If he had closed down somewhat, possibly. Also, C has a much better angle than lead, surprised he called block.

I'm not a fan of reaching across the paint.

Apparently not since he got it wrong.

The lane line isn't some magical barrier that can't be seen through. It is about where the defender came from and when and who has the best view of how the defender got to the spot. In this case, the lead clearly could have had the best view...the endline camera angle that would have been near the lead's location was very clear on review.