Why isn't throw in spot after a "T" POI...?

[Dixon21]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Because at the HS level I believe the NF wants to make these actions more punitive. It is that simple from my point of view. The purpose of sports in other levels is not the same at the HS level.

Peace

did you not read the initial post/situation....in this situation who got "punished" by moving the ball to half court.....it sure as heck wasn't the team that got the T.....

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Dixon21

did you not read the initial post/situation....in this situation who got "punished" by moving the ball to half court.....it sure as heck wasn't the team that got the T.....

The punitive action is giving the ball to the team that was offended. Not to possibly give it to the team that caused the T in the first place. You got the ball, what is the problem? Putting in the ball under the basket does not necessarily make you have a better advantage. There are 3 seconds on the clock, not .3 seconds on the clock. That is plenty of time to shoot the ball from another position where under the basket you might not get a good look at all.

Again, this is not our problem. Because if the T was given to the team that was called for the FT and you give them the ball under their basket, some would say that was not right either. It is all about perspective.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The punitive action is giving the ball to the team that was offended. Not to possibly give it to the team that caused the T in the first place. You got the ball, what is the problem? Putting in the ball under the basket does not necessarily make you have a better advantage. There are 3 seconds on the clock, not .3 seconds on the clock. That is plenty of time to shoot the ball from another position where under the basket you might not get a good look at all.

Again, this is not our problem. Because if the T was given to the team that was called for the FT and you give them the ball under their basket, some would say that was not right either. It is all about perspective.

Peace

As a coach, I'd rather diagram a play from the division line than from underneath my basket. I would feel I could better utilize the spacing on the court.

I rarely see any plays where the PG runs down to the end line and yells "Motion!!!"

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

As a coach, I'd rather diagram a play from the division line than from underneath my basket. I would feel I could better utilize the spacing on the court.

I rarely see any plays where the PG runs down to the end line and yells "Motion!!!"

Three seconds is a lot of time from the to ball being inbounded at the division line. Actually unless you can get the pass directly in the lane area, then you are making a possible bad pass or you are not going to get time to make a couple of passes to get the shot off in time. The division line at least gives you a chance to get someone up in a spot to take a decent shot. But I get your point. I just see plays work better in that situation away from the basket unless the defense completely misses an assignment, which usually does not happen that badly.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Three seconds is a lot of time from the to ball being inbounded at the division line. Actually unless you can get the pass directly in the lane area, then you are making a possible bad pass or you are not going to get time to make a couple of passes to get the shot off in time. The division line at least gives you a chance to get someone up in a spot to take a decent shot. But I get your point. I just see plays work better in that situation away from the basket unless the defense completely misses an assignment, which usually does not happen that badly.

Peace

Maybe we should let the offense check the ball at the top of the key after a 'T'. Or we can go all soccer-like and have them take penalty free throws from the spot of the infraction.

[Dixon21]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Three seconds is a lot of time from the to ball being inbounded at the division line. Actually unless you can get the pass directly in the lane area, then you are making a possible bad pass or you are not going to get time to make a couple of passes to get the shot off in time. The division line at least gives you a chance to get someone up in a spot to take a decent shot. But I get your point. I just see plays work better in that situation away from the basket unless the defense completely misses an assignment, which usually does not happen that badly.

Peace

could go back and forth all day about different scenarios....time/score/ etc....but its not the point...for every one of your I'd rather have it at half court....I'll give you the 0.02 seconds left and I have a 7 foot center scenario where I want it under the hoop to make that in bounds pass...

[Altor]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Three seconds is a lot of time from the to ball being inbounded at the division line.

Just sayin...

[Dixon21]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The punitive action is giving the ball to the team that was offended. Not to possibly give it to the team that caused the T in the first place. You got the ball, what is the problem? Putting in the ball under the basket does not necessarily make you have a better advantage. There are 3 seconds on the clock, not .3 seconds on the clock. That is plenty of time to shoot the ball from another position where under the basket you might not get a good look at all.

Again, this is not our problem. Because if the T was given to the team that was called for the FT and you give them the ball under their basket, some would say that was not right either. It is all about perspective.

Peace

the team that was offended already had the ball....and they were going to keep it and throw it in under the basket.....then there was a T and their throw in spot got moved to half court....if you or anybody else in here doesn't think that is a disadvantage I don't know what else to say....

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Dixon21

if you or anybody else in here doesn't think that is a disadvantage I don't know what else to say....

Why am I supposed to care? My job is to officiate the game according to the rules, not ensure everyone has a fair experience.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Dixon21

the team that was offended already had the ball....and they were going to keep it and throw it in under the basket.....then there was a T and their throw in spot got moved to half court....if you or anybody else in here doesn't think that is a disadvantage I don't know what else to say....

I am aware of the who had the ball. My point is that it was not a tragic situation. The NBA runs plays all the time from half court and you see a spectacular play. Closer is not always better. But if that is the worst you have to complain about, that is not the rules makers problem. Because the alternative is to possibly give the ball to the other team and you get no shot at winning the game. At least you still had a chance in this specific situation.

Peace