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Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Fri Nov 14, 2014 04:09pm

What a way to start the season!
 
Last night was the first game of the season for MTD, Jr. (aka MTDv2.0), and I. It was a MichiganHSAA (in that State up North) assignment: Boys' JrHS DH between to Class D schools and the Home School was less than ten miles from our home.

Our pre-game start as soon as I back out of the driveway (Civil/Highway Engineering joke: Why do we park our cars on driveways and drive our cars on parkways?), but I digress. First thing Mark says is: "Dad, it is a boys' JrHS game, lets have fun, no technical fouls or ejections."

FIRST GAME (7th grade game), the Visitors win in a blow out. No problems, except V-10 (has a Mohawk hair cut) enters the game in the second quarter and does not play ten seconds when he has to be helped off the court after he injures his LEFT knee; late in the third quarter he re-enters the game and again does not play ten seconds when he injures his RIGHT knee and has to be helped off the court and does not play again.


SECOND GAME (8th grade game), the Visitors win in a blow out. BUT!!!

Home-HC has been chipping all game long about our interpretation of the Traveling Rule. Unfortunately, Mark and has been bearing the brunt of the whining because he always seems to be Table Side whenever I make or don't make a traveling call that H-HC does not like. H-HC when he complains, never crosses the "magic line" that will earn him a TF. UNTILL!!

The Visitors have the ball in their Front Court with less than twenty seconds left in the third quarter and I am Opposite-the-Table when a rebound starts bouncing around off every player on the court. Finally the ball bounces off the a player's leg toward the Division Line. V-1 dives toward the ball and slides and rolls approximately ten to twelve feet before coming to a stop. H-HC starts whining for traveling. V-1 passes the ball to V-2 who passes the ball to H-1 and the teams start up court toward Team H's basket. As Mark moves up the court H-HC enters the court, now vehemently complaining about my lack of traveling call. WHACK!! By Mark. There is less that ten seconds left in the third quarter.

As Mark reports the TF I inform H-HC that he as lost the use of the Coaching Box. Mark goes to the Division Line opposite the Scorer's Table while I administer the TF FTs; after V-3 attempts them I pass the ball to Mark and before he can place the ball at the disposal of the Team V's thrower, H-HC comes out onto the court to continue his complaint about my lack of making a travel call and also he doesn't want to remain seated. WHACK!! By me.

Surprisingly, he turned away from me and left as soon as I made the TF signal. Neither I nor Mark had to tell him he had to leave. After the game, the AD came to us before we even left the court to apologize for his coach's actions, so all was good from that stand point.

On the way home, Mark apologized for jinxing us in our pre-game but still would not buy dinner (I always buy the post-game dinner no matter what) because I was the one that ejected the coach not him, LOL. Therefore I had to right the game report even though he was the R in the game.

Like I said: "What a way to start the season!"

MTD, Sr.

JetMetFan Fri Nov 14, 2014 04:32pm

Look at it this way: What else can go wrong for the rest of the season??? :D

(yeah, I know...that was mean to jinx you like that but I couldn't resist)

Raymond Fri Nov 14, 2014 06:33pm

So Derrick Rose has a mohawk now?

Mark Padgett Fri Nov 14, 2014 06:42pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 943607)
On the way home, Mark apologized for jinxing us in our pre-game but still would buy dinner

So, how was your Big Mac? :rolleyes:

APG Fri Nov 14, 2014 06:45pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 943630)
So Derrick Rose has a mohawk now?

This...I legit laughed out loud. :D

grunewar Fri Nov 14, 2014 06:52pm

First scrimmage last night - GV. Late in 3rd Qtr, B1 guarding A1 holding the ball above the top of the key. I'm C near the A1 bench. T picks up the closely guarded count. B1 moves within 2 feet, hands waiving and straight up being a general pain in the a$$. A1 doesn't handle it well and takes a forearm and just pushes B1 off. TWEEEET! My P calls the foul.

A1 looks at her coach and says, "She was in my space!" Nice!

Great start to the season! ;)

Stat-Man Fri Nov 14, 2014 09:08pm

Ugh.

This sounds like a girls MS doubleheader I had last month, aside from the techs and ejection. It must be a Michigan thing. :D

My first MS boys doubleheader is next week. I can only hope mine isn't nearly as eventful as yours. ;)

AremRed Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:52am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 943607)
V-1 dives toward the ball and slides and rolls approximately ten to twelve feet before coming to a stop.

I trust your judgement Mark, but this sounds like a travel to me.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Sat Nov 15, 2014 01:43am

Quote:

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 943657)
I trust your judgement Mark, but this sounds like a travel to me.

Okay, maybe six to eight feet. I was not wearing my glasses. And why would it be traveling if the sliding and rolling is because of the player's momentum from diving for the ball?

MTD, Sr.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Sat Nov 15, 2014 01:48am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 943632)
So, how was your Big Mac? :rolleyes:


Mark:

I edited my OP. Mark, Jr., still would not buy dinner. And we ate at Burger King. I got the Italian Chicken sandwich meal.

MTD, Sr.

JRutledge Sat Nov 15, 2014 02:41am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 943630)
So Derrick Rose has a mohawk now?

Quote:

Originally Posted by APG (Post 943633)
This...I legit laughed out loud. :D

I had to go read the entire story to get this joke. I was also laughing kind of hard on this one too.

Peace

Coach Bill Sat Nov 15, 2014 04:03am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 943660)
Okay, maybe six to eight feet. I was not wearing my glasses. And why would it be traveling if the sliding and rolling is because of the player's momentum from diving for the ball?

MTD, Sr.

That's a joke about not wearing ur glasses, right? lol.

Anyway, explain the rolling part. You say sliding and rolling. Were there multiple rolls (i.e., rolling)? I think that's what AremRed is getting at. Multiple rolls sounds like a travel.

Camron Rust Sat Nov 15, 2014 05:00am

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Originally Posted by Coach Bill (Post 943665)
Anyway, explain the rolling part. You say sliding and rolling. Were there multiple rolls (i.e., rolling)? I think that's what AremRed is getting at. Multiple rolls sounds like a travel.

Why would it? If it was an aggressive dive for a lose ball, I could see a player tumbling more than once.

AremRed Sat Nov 15, 2014 09:17am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 943660)
And why would it be traveling if the sliding and rolling is because of the player's momentum from diving for the ball?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 943666)
Why would it? If it was an aggressive dive for a lose ball, I could see a player tumbling more than once.

Mark never mentioned when the player gathered the ball or if the player rolled over again after the sliding was done.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Sat Nov 15, 2014 01:45pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 943668)
Mark never mentioned when the player gathered the ball or if the player rolled over again after the sliding was done.


It does not matter when the player gained control of the ball nor does it matter what his body and body parts do while the player is moving do to the momentum of his drive. Once the player's momentum is spent and he comes to a stop then the traveling rule governs the player's movements.

MTD, Sr.


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