Player control during throw-in
 

I see no reason why this matters anyway, but it's a study guide question so it might be a test question. Is there player control during the throw-in? Answer key says no. I say why not? Definition says player control means player holding a live ball?

I'm sure this has been discussed before.

I cant see anything that would disagree with you. Don't see much practicality in the question though if it was on a test?

Fire Up The Flux Capacitor ...
 

4-12: A player is in control of the ball when he/she is holding or dribbling
a live ball. There is no player control when, during a jump ball, a jumper catches
the ball prior to the ball touching the floor or a non-jumper, or during an
interrupted dribble.

A team is in control of the ball:
d. When a player of the team has disposal of the ball for a throw-in.

The 2010-11 NFHS Basketball Rulebook states: 4-12: A player is in control of the ball when he/she is holding or dribbling
a live ball inbounds. The word "inbounds" disappeared in the 2011-12 Rulebook, and has not be seen, or heard from, since then.

Not sure why they took the word "inbounds" out of the definition. The only thing it may have done was make it a PC foul if they committed a foul (which is hard for them to do). I guess it may have been part of the half-brained attempt at cleaning up the team control mess they made.

Pick A Prize From The Top shelf ...
 

Bingo.

In the NFHS "Preseason Guide" handout for this season, there is a small article on Team Control Status During Throw-In. A note in that article states:

:confused:
Had it not been consonants that seem to be at issue, I'd diagnose that your keyboard was suffering from "Irritable Vowel Syndrome."

They could easily resolve this by fixing the rule, then they wouldn't have to rely on people reading the preseason handouts and previous season rule change notifications.

LOL (fixed my typos).

Inquiring Minds Want To Know ...
 

How about player control status, or for that matter, team control status, out of bounds?

4-12: A player is in control of the ball when he/she is holding or dribbling
a live ball.

Sure. I was just trying to help with some context I found in the article.

It seems obvious (to me) that you can derive that from what was stated.

Player Control ...
 

So you would agree that there is player control during the throw-in (as described in the original thread)?

No I would not agree with that. At all.

What's missing?

I'm going by the text of the note I quoted above. There is specific wording that team control during a throw-in is not intended to equate to player control. There is no mention of player control existing out of bounds. It only makes sense that player control exists inbounds.

But, Smitty, 4-12-1 tells us that "A player is in control of the ball when he/she is holding or dribbling a live ball."
And, 4-12-2 "A team is in control of the ball:
a. When a player of the team is in control.
d. When a player of the team has disposal of the ball for a throw-in."

Thus, for purposes of a Test question/answer, as to whether there is player control during a throw-in, one must play the "what does the test administrator want for an answer, type game," and respond, "Yes."
I seem to recall that this same or a similarly worded question appeared on last year's test, and they were eliciting a "True" answer. (?)

The answer key in the OP says no. I agree. I think they added enough wording via the notations to imply there is no player control during a throw-in. The fact that it's not implicitly stated in the rules doesn't keep me up at night.

It doesn't keep me up at night either, but since it is a question it needs an answer. There is only one important thing about this question, the fact that it can be missed on a test. Other than that, I see it as totally irrelevant, one way or the other.

There's always an ambiguous question or two on the test. In this case, however, even though they may have written the rules poorly, I think they made it clear in the followup notifications. It makes no sense to me that a player who is out of bounds would still have player control status.

They dropped a key word from this rule recently...'inbounds". Perhaps it was an editing error and they still intend for PC to only exist inbounds.