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Old Wed Sep 24, 2014, 05:55pm
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At no time is this a foul not an intentional personal foul.

The first time I see it I will do one of two things: I will either tell the defender to knock it off if the contact did not change the play or I will call a foul in the act of shooting.

If I did not call a foul the first time I see it, the second time I see it, it will at least be a foul in the act of shooting.

The third and thereafter it will be an intentional personal foul each and every time.

When I choose to take the "warning" approach the first time I see it, I let the defender know in no uncertain terms that the contact, by definition, is an intentional personal foul, and that does make an impression on most players.

The amazing thing is that this foul is committed by male players and not female players. I cannot remember the last time I had to talk to a female player about this type of contact.

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"At no time" except the first two times. Right?
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Old Wed Sep 24, 2014, 08:20pm
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I was wondering if he made a syntax error in that post.
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Old Thu Sep 25, 2014, 03:47am
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"At no time" except the first two times. Right?
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I was wondering if he made a syntax error in that post.

Now you both have me on what I wrote. But it is too early in the morning for me to rewrite my post. Later this morning.

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Later this morning.
After your late morning nap?
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Old Thu Sep 25, 2014, 07:41am
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There is no such thing as marginal contact on a jump shooter--if he hits him, I call it.
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Old Thu Sep 25, 2014, 08:43am
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Just please don't refer to it as the "tummy" again, its weird. And if its any type of jab its a foul. If it is just fingertips or very light, then nothing.
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Old Thu Sep 25, 2014, 09:08am
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Just please don't refer to it as the "tummy" again, its weird. And if its any type of jab its a foul. If it is just fingertips or very light, then nothing.
*Authors of these posts are free to use any terminology they choose, be it as "tummy", "abdomen", "torso", or any other term--be it of a strictly anatomical distinction (i.e., abdomen/torso) or colloquial origin (i.e., tummy, belly). I think we all know what each other means--just sayin...

*We are not sure what you mean by saying "any type of jab is foul, but just a light finger tip, then nothing"--appears glaringly contradictory.

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Old Thu Sep 25, 2014, 02:15pm
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If you never played high level playground basketball this is done REGULARLY there... that's where it comes from.

Now being a very good jump shooter it does affect a jump shot just by a matter of inches.... believe me

You have to call this at the high school level.....
On the concrete....you play through it
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There is no such thing as marginal contact on a jump shooter--if he hits him, I call it.
*Exactly, I concur...that is why I told that player to "just play defense the normal way, the way your coach taught you--hands extended up and time your jump to block or contest that shot".
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Old Thu Sep 25, 2014, 10:19am
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There is no such thing as marginal contact on a jump shooter--if he hits him, I call it.
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*Exactly, I concur...that is why I told that player to "just play defense the normal way, the way your coach taught you--hands extended up and time your jump to block or contest that shot".
What is this "marginal contact"? I can't find it.

Contact on a shooter may be incidental, or it may be a foul. And yes, there are plenty of cases where you'll have incidental contact on a jump shooter: even if a jab to the stomach isn't one of those cases.
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..."just play defense the normal way, the way your coach taught you--hands extended up and time your jump to block or contest that shot".
You say all this?
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There is no such thing as marginal contact on a jump shooter--if he hits him, I call it.
This

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You call any and all contact on a jump shooter?
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After your late morning nap?

Sometime between my post-breakfast nap and my pre-lunch nap. Being a retired structural engineer is a demanding job.

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