New FAT STRIPE shirts they are making us use in VA
 

Anyone know where the best price is?

I bought one from the VHSL's personal business partner when they first came out and my HS board is supposed to buying one for all officials this season. Far as I know, the price was around $40-45.

I never researched the online price from Honig's.

I recently got one from "Terry's Official Call" in WV (our supplier). If you can't find their info PM me. $39.00 plus S/H = $47.95 (tax deductible of course) ;)

Last yr if we ordered ours at our pre-season clinic from Terry's, we didn't have to pay for S/H.

Of course, last yr was the first yr for the shirts. This yr they may have sufficient numbers in stock at the clinic and we may be able to pick them up there without having to order them and having them shipped.

I purchased mine from Rivanna Gear last year. They were listed at $49.95 each + S&H, but I believe that Rivanna had a deal with Cliff Keen and VHSL(and had a discount code) that knocked $10 off the price/shirt. So basically $40 + S/H per shirt.

That's what I did.

Still don't like the arrangement. Somebody affiliated with the VHSL got some kind of financial benefit from the deal, it would take a lot to convince me otherwise.

Same price from Purchase Officials...delivered quickly, no complaints. Don't think you're gonna find it any cheaper than that...just a cost of doing business

Sporting Goods store behind Regency Sq off of Parham (Dixie Sports, I think)... about $40 last yr.

I bought one there in June. The price is still the same. I still think they're ugly looking.

Our association as a whole contacted a supplier and got them for $35 each... i'm sure we are ordering a couple hundred though....

Was curious what price was around the state....

Does nobody care about the quality of the shirt and only the price? I'm just amazed that the only thing being mentioned here is price.

Maybe there are some polyester models out there for $20 - you should keep looking. :D

Can you spell m-o-n-o-p-o-l-y?
This is a Virginia specific situation. Acceptable shirts, per VHSL, must have the new, improved VHSL logo sublimated onto the fabric. Only VHSL can supply this trademarked design.

Everyones agrees it's a total money grab...... but what you can you do?

I haven't heard one argument from the VHSL on why they made the change....

My understanding is that the sublimated logo is optional. You can buy your own wide-stripe shirt anywhere and then velcro/sew a traditional patch on it.

Of course that makes very little sense to me. But technically, you do have options if you really don't like the VHSL-partnership.

Living in a no-logo (no patch, no nothing except an optional flag) on the shirt state is a great thing, trust me.

Missouri sends us a new patch every year for each sport we register in. They do require that they be worn but we don't have to buy a special shirt for it.

I tried but have not been able to view the so-called "fat stripe" shirt.
Is it more fashionable?
than the current striped shirts ?

I only wore it once last year as it was optional, this year it is mandatory.

The change wasn't made for fashion's sake, it was made specifically to put $$$ in somebody's (some bodies') pockets.

Here's the shirt:

http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/CK-Ba...t-Mock-Up.jpeg

We also wear them in Southern Nevada - last season was the first season and they are optional. I was in the meeting when we decided to go with a state logo. I'm still not sure why we switched to the shirts in the first place.

They are not used in Northern Nevada and I was in the meeting this summer when the Executive Director of the State Office inquired of the Southern representative who authorized the use of the governing body's logo? Didn't get permission beforehand for a 3rd party company to print that logo on shirts--oops!

The President of the football chapter who works D1 college games stated that the reason behind the 2-inch wide design is that the shirts look better on HD TV. The 1-inch stripes have a problem of looking zig-zagged on TV. The 2-inch stripes don't do that. I still don't understand why how the shirts of the officials look on TV is important to anyone in officiating. I can see why the marketing execs of the NFL or big $ NCAA conferences care as it is part of the appearance of their product and marketing it to a TV audience makes them lots of $. HS is not that way at this time.
Personally, I feel that if an organization cares about the TV look, then it should bear the cost of the shirts and provide them. When most HS games are on TV and someone else pays for my shirt, then I'll wear it. Until then, I'll stick with the summer specials from Officials Choice. Good quality shirts at $12 to $15. I see no reason to pay $40 to $50 when what I already have works just fine.

Purchase Officials Supplies sells the VHSL shirts for $39.99 and they are ugly. What were the state association officials thinking when they picked this shirt.

If it was going to change to anything else than the standard black/white strips go with the gray w/black pin stripes. They (gray with black pin stripes) make my look svelte, :D, and Mark, Jr., and Andy (my smart son because he does not officiate) keep telling me that I can keep on thinking that.

MTD, Sr.

What's is a good way for "ljsdflkdfj" to make some money over the next 2 years?

When The Moon Hits Your Eye Like A Big Pizza Pie ...
 

... that's a moiré.

Those that produce television shows, be it a scripted show, news, sports, weather, or live events, like sports, don't want viewers getting dizzy, and distracted. I'm sure that many of us have seen a newscaster, or talk show host, wearing a tie with a pattern that is changed by the camera lens into a distracting moiré pattern.

Proper Clothing Pattern for the TV

Details and intricate patterns prove to be little trouble for our eyes. For the camera, however, pinstripes, checks, herringbones, and textured fabrics will cause havoc for the camera. The result is what looks like the pattern is “swimming”.

This is because the details of a herringbone suit, for example, will interfere with the camera’s sensor and will produce a moiré pattern which after awhile is distracting and dizzying for the viewer.

More On Moirés ...
 

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Multiplication by Infinity: Moire Patterns, and a Cool Video Example Thanks to Pat Ballew

Moiré patterns are commonly seen on television screens directly when a person is wearing a shirt or jacket of a particular weave or pattern, such as a houndstooth jacket, due to sampling problems in the television camera. As the person moves about, the Moiré pattern is quite noticeable. Because of this, newscasters and other professionals who appear on TV regularly are instructed to avoid clothing which could cause the effect, more commonly known as 'strobing'.

Mark my words...... now that they have their hands in our pockets watch what comes next....

Shoes..... perhaps pants.......

Hope it's not jackets.......we got new ones last yr! ;)

You can Mark my words but all I care about is getting my share of the vig. :p

MTD, Sr.

I hate them....good think I am scaling back on the HS level.

When one state does it.... makes a good bit of money...
Don't think for one second it won't hit another state quickly

So that's what administrators do at those NFHS meetings.

Oh my state made X amount of money forcing our officials to buy new gear from their already low pay rates!

Oh that sounds lovely, I'll have to do that with my officials.

The one bright side, in my mind, is that I wouldn't have to see guys wearing 15 year old polyester shirts.

An upside that is understated in a lot of these situations.

Show Me The Money, Wait, Never Mind ...
 

My local board decided to get new jackets with our local logo instead of the IAABO International logo a few years ago. We use a local distributer (the reason for the change, trademark infringement problems). We were given a grace period of a few years, at which time we had to have the new jacket. As guys started buying new jackets (as selected by our executive committee), they started hating them. It wrinkled no matter how carefully one folded it. It had a "shiny" polyester type outer shell (it reminded me of the roller disco era). The pockets weren't deep enough to hold anything (my extra inflation needle kept falling out).

Our executive committee decided to scrap the new jacket and came up with a better new jacket. They also decided that any of us that purchased the old new jacket would be reimbursed for it, and the old new jackets that were turned in would be donated to a charity clothing drive.

Sometimes it not just about the money.

What do you do with your old jackets?
 

I've had an old jacket for many yrs that I simply haven't turned in to charity, like I do with other "slightly used clothes," as I just think it would be too weird to walk down the street and see someone wearing a referee jacket? What do you guys/gals do with them?

From what source? Your dues? I doubt the sell of the jackets gave everyone a refund.

Not A Perfect Solution ...
 

It's not a full reimbursement, just a partial reimbursement. And, yes, it's from our dues. I guess our executive committee decided to spread the "hurt" around for a mistake made a few years ago. Also, the seller, a board member, didn't want to sell us this particular jacket (it wasn't his first choice), but, unfortunately, the executive committee didn't heed is advice.

I give mine away to charity with any other slightly used clothes I'm getting rid of. I mainly do this for the tax deductions, but if someone in need gets the jacket then that's an added bonus.

I am not a tax lawyer, but I think that if you claimed it as an expense when you bought it, you can't also claim a deduction when you donate it.

Interesting ... never thought of that. I tend to just lump officials gear in with other misc. clothes when I drop them off at the donation center. I'll have to look into this if I have to track separately.