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Old Tue Jul 22, 2014, 12:54am
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Didn't really fit in the meme thread but this happened Sunday.

Team B has a player injured on offense. Team A grabs the rebound and starts to fast break the other way. I run down as Lead tableside. Team A stops their break and pulls the ball outside the 3 point line. I blow play dead.

Coach A: "You can't do that!"

Me: "I can and I just did."

Coach A: "You're wrong."

Me: "Coach, player safety is m-"

Coach A: "YOU'RE WRONG" as he walks away.

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Old Tue Jul 22, 2014, 02:36am
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Obviously I don't know what tone you used but "I can and I just did" sounds too confrontational.

How about: "Coach, when your team stops trying to score I'm supposed to blow the play dead." It's a few more words but in one sentence you let him know why the whistle blew and - indirectly - that there's a rule-related reason for it. If he complains after that it's on him.
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Old Tue Jul 22, 2014, 03:06am
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Old Tue Jul 22, 2014, 09:12am
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"I'd do the same for your team, coach."
"Per the rule book, I can."

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Old Tue Jul 22, 2014, 09:22am
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I'd probably just smile and walk away.

I'll get a chance Sunday. I'm working games 3-6 of my summer. Disney money.
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Old Tue Jul 22, 2014, 09:38am
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Good on the spot decision to "kill the play".
No one is out there being paid to be at the gym but you. It is your responsibility to monitor such activity. In this day and age when everything is videotaped [and your game may have been being recorded on a cell phone as mine usually are by fans instands], then as an Independent Contractor (read as: hoops ref) they [the injured kid's parents] could hold you liable if that injured kid started convulsing and you just let a game continue on without giving a chance for medical or helpful assistance.
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Old Tue Jul 22, 2014, 08:30am
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Obviously I don't know what tone you used but "I can and I just did" sounds too confrontational.

How about: "Coach, when your team stops trying to score I'm supposed to blow the play dead." It's a few more words but in one sentence you let him know why the whistle blew and - indirectly - that there's a rule-related reason for it. If he complains after that it's on him.
Summer ball, I may have said the same thing; and quietly regretted it.

I also might have ignored it in summer ball.

High school ball, the coaches around here don't bitch about this kind of stuff.
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Old Tue Jul 22, 2014, 10:09am
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Obviously I don't know what tone you used but "I can and I just did" sounds too confrontational.
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Summer ball, I may have said the same thing; and quietly regretted it.

I also might have ignored it in summer ball.

High school ball, the coaches around here don't bitch about this kind of stuff.
Yeah it was confrontational, but I'd do it again. The coach didn't even hear me in the state he was in, he was focused on this injustice I had done him.

It probably didn't help that when I blew the play dead the injured player had stood up and the coach's team had started to run a pick and roll to exploit the man down. It was three person and I should have let my C or T take care of it cuz they were closer to the injury.

Thankfully the coach didn't say anything else to me the rest of the game.
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It probably didn't help that when I blew the play dead the injured player had stood up...
That's a key detail.
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That's a key detail.
Standing up doesn't mean he's not injured.
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Didn't really fit in the meme thread but this happened Sunday.

Team B has a player injured on offense. Team A grabs the rebound and starts to fast break the other way. I run down as Lead tableside. Team A stops their break and pulls the ball outside the 3 point line. I blow play dead.

Coach A: "You can't do that!"

Me: "I can and I just did."

Coach A: "You're wrong."

Me: "Coach, player safety is m-"

Coach A: "YOU'RE WRONG" as he walks away.


MTD, Jr., and I are officiating (two-man crew) a boys' H.S. summer camp in June with multiple sites being utilized. We are officiating a varsity level game between a team from NE Ohio (Visiting Team) and the team (Home Team) whose site where this particular game is being played.

I am T on the Table Side when a scramble for a loose ball develops in front of me. V-1 dives for the ball but dives late because when his forehead smacks the hardwood floor H-1 is twenty feet into his team's frontcourt with an uncontested layup in front of him. V-1's immediate reaction to hitting the floor with his head was to grab his head and curl into a ball. I blew the ball dead immediately.

H-HC complains that I can't stop the game when his player has an uncontested layup in front of him. I told him yes I can because the player had a head injury. His response: "No you can't." Did I tell you all that this was just a summer team camp with nothing at stake. Sometimes coaches brains are located in the South end of a North bound donkey.

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Old Tue Jul 22, 2014, 11:57pm
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Didn't really fit in the meme thread but this happened Sunday.

Team B has a player injured on offense. Team A grabs the rebound and starts to fast break the other way. I run down as Lead tableside. Team A stops their break and pulls the ball outside the 3 point line. I blow play dead.

Coach A: "You can't do that!"

Me: "I can and I just did."

Coach A: "You're wrong."

Me: "Coach, player safety is m-"

Coach A: "YOU'RE WRONG" as he walks away.
My first response would have been, "That's the rule, coach."
If he had responded, "You're wrong." Then I would have gone with...
Me: Whack.

Btw, if I were the Trail in the backcourt with the injured player and you whistled after I deemed that he was up and ok, I would be annoyed with you. What do you think that your partner is doing back there? That isn't officiating with an R mentality, it is working with a me mentality. An R provides leadership. Sometimes that means letting his partners handle their business, not stepping on their toes and making it look as if they aren't capable or don't care about the possibly hurt kid.

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