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Old Sun Jun 15, 2014, 01:47am
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Double Foul (video)

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Old Sun Jun 15, 2014, 02:09am
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I think the initial illegal contact is by white 23. Whose primary is this under NCAA-W? Does Lead look at the dribbler and Trail look at the post? I would hope Lead would have a handle on this play.

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Old Sun Jun 15, 2014, 02:35am
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I'm OK with the double. While it seems white might the primary instigator at first glance, black is keeping her from getting close with a straight-arm.
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Old Sun Jun 15, 2014, 09:30am
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It looks like the foul is on the black player who is pushing off and the white player reacts.

I am not a fan of double fouls, get the first foul. Clearly both situations happen at different times.

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Old Sun Jun 15, 2014, 10:05am
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I am not a fan of double fouls.
... nor am I. When I do call them, which is very seldom, I tend to call them early in the season, and early in the game. I will usually call at least one in my preseason scrimmages, just to keep the knuckleheads in check as they try to impress the coach with their physical prowess trying to make the first string.
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Old Sun Jun 15, 2014, 10:23am
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2nd Overtime, 3:31 to go, 2 point game, Home leading.

Whistle -- thought: Is it easier to sell/explain the dbl foul, than a foul on White for holding, or a foul on Black for holding off the defender?
With the dbl foul, it just goes to a throw-in. Maybe, a no-call accomplishes the same thing, since the play seemed to progress with no overwhelming need for the whistle.
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Old Sun Jun 15, 2014, 10:18am
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I think the initial illegal contact is by white 23. Whose primary is this under NCAA-W? Does Lead look at the dribbler and Trail look at the post? I would hope Lead would have a handle on this play.
Everything is going on in the L's primary. He focused on the BH/dribbler after the throw-in so the T can pick that up. However, I think I would've been inclined to look at the post play first from the L and let the T deal with the BH/dribbler. The post was where the real action was taking place.


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PS: Where'd you get this video JetMet?
The internet is a wonderful thing I'm that geek who searches for NCAA-W's games during - and after - the season on YouTube so I can see more plays. It definitely helped me this past season.


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It looks like the foul is on the black player who is pushing off and the white player reacts.

I am not a fan of double fouls, get the first foul. Clearly both situations happen at different times.
My thoughts as well. It's not easy to see from the angle but I have the first foul on the offensive post player. In one of the NCAA-W breakout videos this past season D. Williamson broke down a play like this. Black #42 is essentially setting a screen. She's trying to keep White #23 from getting to a desired spot and she does it by clamping down on White #23's right arm.
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Whose primary is this under NCAA-W?
L's primary goes from the endline to the FT line extended and from the middle of the lane all the way out to the sideline. So both the dribbler and the post players are in L's primary. T or C would have secondary coverage on the post players since L will be looking primarily at the dribbler matchup.
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