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Old Tue May 20, 2014, 04:39pm
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The Ibaka play wasn't a foul. At first viewing I wondered how the L could really see the contact given his position.
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Agree on all three.
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1. No foul on Ibaka.
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Play #1: Foul. Not vertical defender makes contact to make a block.

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Again, I'm not trying to stir it up, I'm just curious... Let's go with Fed and NCAA rule sets on this play. Does Ibaka have LGP?
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Old Tue May 20, 2014, 04:44pm
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Again, I'm not trying to stir it up, I'm just curious... Let's go with Fed and NCAA rule sets on this play. Does Ibaka have LGP?
It does not matter if he does, he was not trying to take a charge or just get in the way. He was not vertical IMO and that is why it was a foul. You can be in LGP and then not be vertical and that is why you should be called for a foul.

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Old Tue May 20, 2014, 10:32pm
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It does not matter if he does, he was not trying to take a charge or just get in the way. He was not vertical IMO and that is why it was a foul. You can be in LGP and then not be vertical and that is why you should be called for a foul.

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Lemme know if I'm reading you right: You're saying that Ibaka moved toward the shooter and that's where the foul was, thus making him not vertical? (Contact with body at :25 on the video as far as I can tell.) Or are you saying that Ibaka's arm was outside his vertical plane?
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Old Wed May 21, 2014, 11:08am
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Lemme know if I'm reading you right: You're saying that Ibaka moved toward the shooter and that's where the foul was, thus making him not vertical? (Contact with body at :25 on the video as far as I can tell.) Or are you saying that Ibaka's arm was outside his vertical plane?
Ibaka was not vertical when he jumped. Not only did he jump towards the shooter, he also had his arm was not vertical. Not sure how this is hard to understand.

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Old Wed May 21, 2014, 09:38pm
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Ibaka was not vertical when he jumped. Not only did he jump towards the shooter, he also had his arm was not vertical. Not sure how this is hard to understand.

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Also, according to an NBA memo from this season, defenders lose the "verticality" advantage if they are turned sideways.

http://www.nba.com/media/Verticality...ar_31_2014.pdf
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