RA Discussion (Video)
 

Seeing as this is the off season and slow time of this board, I'll see if I can conjure up plays for discussion.

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RA play here?...Block/charge? Should the RA apply? What about positioning? what about secondary help from any of the officials (if applicable)?

I haven't got an RA violation here, but still a block based on the the new NCAA interp in regards to gather/upward motion of the shooter being the criteria to established/maintaining.

I'm ok with this call.

Not quite sure how you think the defender was late. IMO the defender is there...well in time before the ballhandler's upward motion. And the calling official agrees too because the only reason he called a block was the RA...at least if he's mechanically correct.

This is a play that John Adams tells us in videos that the C needs to come over an provide information on the RA. The defender was not w/i the RA.

Does the RA apply on drives from "below" the backboard?

Besides, I think LGP was outside the arc.

L should have kept rotating.

I've been taught that on an immediate drive, if you haven't crossed the midway point of rotating, then go back.

I have him farther across then that when the drive starts -- and he certainly would have been if he moved with a purpose across.

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As far as RA is concerned, I believe he was outside thus should have been an PC foul. I'm a women's official so the upward motion isn't something I am super familiar with but the RA is the same. From what I've been taught the RA stops underneath the backboard and players can draw PCs "behind" the backboard.

On another note, if L would have seen the dribbler step on the end line, he wouldn't have had to make this hard call. :eek:

I thought I saw him step out also.

I believe he did step out...but for the purposes of discussion...he didn't. ;)

Also, welcome to the board SCRef1983 :)

The defenders left foot is clearly outside the arc. The defenders right foot would be behind the arc if it extended to the end line....does that matter?

From my knowledge, it doesn't matter because the RA doesn't extend all the way to the endline. It stops where the line ends. If someone knows any better than I do, please inform me and the board.

Thanks APG!! Been reading posts for a while. Just decided to join in on the convo.

You are correct that the RA stops at the backboard.

PC foul at every level. Defender is outside the RA and establishes LGP before the offensive player leaves the floor or begins upward motion.

The RA is what it is...in other words it doesn't extend to the end line.

This is definitely a "help your partner" situation. If he still rules it a block after being told the defender wasn't in the RA that's on his head.

Thanks for posting this play for discussion APG.

Is there any reason why Gonzaga is inbounding the ball at the endline, after the foul, instead of shooting 2 FTs?

IMO he's in his intial position (angled to the drive) before but brings his right foot forward squaring himself and moving into the shooter/driver after the ball and player are on the way up.

Great question.

Not an RA play. It's an end line out of bounds play.
Actually an embarrassing miss for a D1 official.

It was a compromise for missing the OOB call. ;)

Why do I get the feeling this was one of at least three questions their supervisor may have had for the crew about this play? Hitting the trifecta like this - OOB, RA, Block/PC - might have meant there were voice mails waiting for them at halftime.

Do supervisors really care about tough plays like this that happen 1/4 of the way into the game, that favor the road team who losing by 8, etc?? Unless the Gonzaga coach sends in video demanding an explanation, would a supervisor really pick this moment to rip the crew?

Uhmmm, Gonzaga was the home team. The missed OOB and the subsequent blocking call did NOT favor the road team, they went against the road team...and yes, the supervisor is going to care that one of his crews made three mistakes on one lay.

My bad, got the jersey colors wrong.

I have a block in real time. I have defender moving forward trying to establish and obviously failing to do so, IMO.

As the Lead didn't finish his rotation, it actually leaves the T with the best opportunity to offer assistance on the RA.

Good clip.

I see a PC foul all the way (RA, NCAA interp).

Peace

All I have is whites ball. Player went out of bounds on the drive.

*We don't know whether the Gonzaga coach sent the play to the supervisor but if I had to guess I'd say he did...for the exact reasons you laid out. He was down and it cost one of his kids a foul.
*If the supervisor was watching the game on ESPN he could question it instantaneously. Last summer I was told the Big East women's offices have an NHL-style war room where they can watch all games involving conference teams at the same time.
*The crew is paid quite well to make these decisions. When a crew has a "triple play," there are going to be questions from above.

Already been pointed out but...

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Fair enough, I didn't read every post. I think it's a PC.