bob jenkins SCRef1983 wroteFrom my knowledge, it doesn't matter because the RA doesn't extend all the way to the endline. It stops where the line ends. If someone knows any better than I do, please inform me and the board. Thanks APG!! Been reading posts for a while. Just decided to join in on the convo. You are correct that the RA stops at the backboard.
[deleted] SCRef1983 wroteFrom my knowledge, it doesn't matter because the RA doesn't extend all the way to the endline. It stops where the line ends. If someone knows any better than I do, please inform me and the board. bob jenkins wroteYou are correct that the RA stops at the backboard. PC foul at every level. Defender is outside the RA and establishes LGP before the offensive player leaves the floor or begins upward motion.
JetMetFan AremRed wroteThe defenders left foot is clearly outside the arc. The defenders right foot would be behind the arc if it extended to the end line....does that matter? The RA is what it is...in other words it doesn't extend to the end line. This is definitely a "help your partner" situation. If he still rules it a block after being told the defender wasn't in the RA that's on his head.
dahoopref Thanks for posting this play for discussion APG. Is there any reason why Gonzaga is inbounding the ball at the endline, after the foul, instead of shooting 2 FTs?
Pantherdreams APG wroteNot quite sure how you think the defender was late. IMO the defender is there...well in time before the ballhandler's upward motion. And the calling official agrees too because the only reason he called a block was the RA...at least if he's mechanically correct. IMO he's in his intial position (angled to the drive) before but brings his right foot forward squaring himself and moving into the shooter/driver after the ball and player are on the way up.
Raymond dahoopref wroteThanks for posting this play for discussion APG. Is there any reason why Gonzaga is inbounding the ball at the endline, after the foul, instead of shooting 2 FTs? Great question.
Nevadaref Not an RA play. It's an end line out of bounds play. Actually an embarrassing miss for a D1 official.
JetMetFan dahoopref wroteIs there any reason why Gonzaga is inbounding the ball at the endline, after the foul, instead of shooting 2 FTs? Why do I get the feeling this was one of at least three questions their supervisor may have had for the crew about this play? Hitting the trifecta like this - OOB, RA, Block/PC - might have meant there were voice mails waiting for them at halftime.
[deleted] JetMetFan wroteWhy do I get the feeling this was one of at least three questions their supervisor may have had for the crew about this play? Hitting the trifecta like this - OOB, RA, Block/PC - might have meant there were voice mails waiting for them at halftime. Do supervisors really care about tough plays like this that happen 1/4 of the way into the game, that favor the road team who losing by 8, etc?? Unless the Gonzaga coach sends in video demanding an explanation, would a supervisor really pick this moment to rip the crew?
rockyroad AremRed wroteDo supervisors really care about tough plays like this that happen 1/4 of the way into the game, that favor the road team who losing by 8, etc?? Unless the Gonzaga coach sends in video demanding an explanation, would a supervisor really pick this moment to rip the crew? Uhmmm, Gonzaga was the home team. The missed OOB and the subsequent blocking call did NOT favor the road team, they went against the road team...and yes, the supervisor is going to care that one of his crews made three mistakes on one lay.
[deleted] rockyroad wroteUhmmm, Gonzaga was the home team. The missed OOB and the subsequent blocking call did NOT favor the road team, they went against the road team...and yes, the supervisor is going to care that one of his crews made three mistakes on one lay. My bad, got the jersey colors wrong.
Toren I have a block in real time. I have defender moving forward trying to establish and obviously failing to do so, IMO. As the Lead didn't finish his rotation, it actually leaves the T with the best opportunity to offer assistance on the RA. Good clip.
JetMetFan AremRed wroteDo supervisors really care about tough plays like this that happen 1/4 of the way into the game, that favor the home team who losing by 8, etc?? Unless the Gonzaga coach sends in video demanding an explanation, would a supervisor really pick this moment to rip the crew? *We don't know whether the Gonzaga coach sent the play to the supervisor but if I had to guess I'd say he did...for the exact reasons you laid out. He was down and it cost one of his kids a foul. *If the supervisor was watching the game on ESPN he could question it instantaneously. Last summer I was told the Big East women's offices have an NHL-style war room where they can watch all games involving conference teams at the same time. *The crew is paid quite well to make these decisions. When a crew has a "triple play," there are going to be questions from above.
APG OKREF wroteAll I have is whites ball. Player went out of bounds on the drive. Already been pointed out but... APG wroteI believe he did step out...but for the purposes of discussion...he didn't. 😉 😉
OKREF APG wroteAlready been pointed out but... 😉 Fair enough, I didn't read every post. I think it's a PC.