NFHS Rules Changes Predictions/Rumors/Desires

RefCT

Does anybody know when the new rules will be announced?

BillyMac

RefCT wrote
Does anybody know when the new rules will be announced?

The NFHS press release came out on May 8, 2013 last year.

(Imagine Carly Simon singing Anticipation here.)

Multiple Sports

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. wrote
Billy is correct in his dates. The NFHS and NCAA Men's changed from "hit" to "release" in 1981. The NFHS and NCAA Men's Committees said the change was made because officials were not enforcing the rule as written. When the NCAA Women's Committee was created in the late 1980's it adopted the NCAA Men's "release" rule. When the NFHS change back to "hit" in 1993, the reason was due excessive contact during rebounding action. BUT, one can go back through all of the NFHS and NCAA Men's/Women's POEs for the last 20 years and one will see that illegal contact has been a concern more often than not and the Rules Committees POEs would seem that the Committees want officials to call more fouls.

MTD, Sr.

Just what we need, someone validating a response form Billy Mac !!!! Now that he thinks he is right, we may have to hear him for the entire off -season !!! 😃😃😃

BillyMac

Multiple Sports wrote
Just what we need, someone validating a response form Billy Mac !!!!

Will this help me realize my dream of becoming an esteemed Forum member.

Rich

BillyMac wrote
Will this help me realize my dream of becoming an esteemed Forum member.

Anyhow, there you go. Well earned. 😀

BillyMac

Rich wrote
Anyhow, there you go. Well earned.

I’d like to thank all the little people who made this possible, but I can’t remember your names. When will I receive my Basketball Forum Esteemed Member decoder ring? Also, I understand that there's some type of monetary stipend attached to this honor. I'd like to forgo the stipend and turn it over to the Basketball Forum Education Fund. I'd like to, but I can't, because I need the money, so please send it to me as soon as possible.

I need to get new business cards, one's that read "Esteemed Forum Member". What am I supposed to do with the 10,000 old business cards that I had printed up? Wait? On second thought, don't answer that.

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I don't care about the shot clock thing, but I pray every day that the NFHS will require PTS for Varsity games. One can hope.

Raymond

AremRed wrote
I don't care about the shot clock thing, but I pray every day that the NFHS will require PTS for Varsity games. One can hope.

If you can even get it for State play-off games, you should be happy.

JRutledge

AremRed wrote
I don't care about the shot clock thing, but I pray every day that the NFHS will require PTS for Varsity games. One can hope.

That is one big wish. The schools I was around that used it stopped using it because of the cost it would take to keep it.

Peace

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BadNewsRef wrote
If you can even get it for State play-off games, you should be happy.

JRutledge wrote
That is one big wish.

I know, I was only half serious. 🙂

Camron Rust

JRutledge wrote
That is one big wish. The schools I was around that used it stopped using it because of the cost it would take to keep it.

Peace

That is one thing I've never understood....why it costs anything to keep it. Something like PTS should be a producthat the schools buy, not a service they subscribe to. There is nothing the manufacturer should be needed for after it is installed. I can't imagine what additional service they could be providing that would require an ongoing subscription.

JRutledge

Camron Rust wrote
That is one thing I've never understood....why it costs anything to keep it. Something like PTS should be a producthat the schools buy, not a service they subscribe to. There is nothing the manufacturer should be needed for after it is installed. I can't imagine what additional service they could be providing that would require an ongoing subscription.

Well at one time the system used to be around $5000. And you had replace batteries and other maintenance that I was told about. I honestly do not know much about the system overall, just was told that the initial cost was only part of the system. And with the cost was one of the reasons the school the reason the school that was allowed to borrow the device.

Peace

Camron Rust

JRutledge wrote
Well at one time the system used to be around $5000. And you had replace batteries and other maintenance that I was told about. I honestly do not know much about the system overall, just was told that the initial cost was only part of the system. And with the cost was one of the reasons the school the reason the school that was allowed to borrow the device.

Peace

Probably the $5,000 to start but then a good chunk more every year just to have it. The batteries "should" be cheap unless they choose a proprietary form just so they can mark up the replacements to a high price...sort of like cell phone accessories used to be until some governments in the world made the cell phone makers (except for Apple for some reason) converge to universal standards (micro-USB) so chargers and other accessories from one work on all others and you don't have to rebuy them for every new phone.

I also think the company doesn't actually sell the system...I think they only lease it. With no competition, they can get away with that and pretty much charge what they want.

Maybe a couple of use tech-types should get together with a few marketing/sales types and invent a competing system!😉

Raymond

Camron Rust wrote
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I also think the company doesn't actually sell the system...I think they only lease it. With no competition, they can get away with that and pretty much charge what they want.

Maybe a couple of use tech-types should get together with a few marketing/sales types and invent a competing system!😉

How long has PTS been around? Is it possible they still have patent/trade secret protection?

Camron Rust

BadNewsRef wrote
How long has PTS been around? Is it possible they still have patent/trade secret protection?

If they do have a patent, should be near expiration. PTS has been in use for over 15 years, probably closer to 20 and patents expire 20 years after the first filing. They would have filed for the patent before selling the product. (It used to be 17 years from issue, but that changed in the mid-90's.).

Even if they have patents on it, their patented method can't be the only way to do something like that.

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