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pfan1981 Mon Apr 14, 2014 08:40pm

Whack, after held ball or b/t quarters
 
Happened in a tournament over the weekend.....

Quarter 1 ends, A coach comes onto floor going ballistic. Easy T. The rule book says that quarter 2 begins with the 2 free throws for team B. Then my English ain't real good. Does B retain the possession arrow if it was theirs to start the second quarter?

I assume this would be the same if there was a held ball, possession arrow going to team B. A1 earns a technical foul. B would get two shots and the ball and retain the arrow. I can't find it, but makes a whole lot of sense to me.

pfan

Adam Mon Apr 14, 2014 08:43pm

The penalty for FTs includes the throw in (NFHS rules). You only use the arrow when there's no other way to determine who gets possession. In either of your situations, regardless of who has the arrow, it will not change.

bob jenkins Mon Apr 14, 2014 09:17pm

AS long as the quarter was truly over, Adam is correct. Sometimes, though, the T happens after time expires, but before the quarter is over. In that instance, B gets the FTs, of course, but the next quarter starts with the arrow.

letemplay Tue Apr 15, 2014 09:51am

AFTER...but before?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 931758)
Sometimes, though, the T happens after time expires, but before the quarter is over.

I think I know what you mean, but could you enlighten us with an example?

HokiePaul Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:01am

Quote:

Originally Posted by letemplay (Post 931810)
I think I know what you mean, but could you enlighten us with an example?

Defense fouls shooter as time expires.
Coach for defense issued a T for arguing the call.

The quarter is not over because there are still free throws to administer for the foul on the last second shot. So shoot the free throws for the initial foul. Then shoot the Technical foul shots.

The quarter is then over and the next quarter resumes with the AP


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