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jeremy341a Wed Apr 09, 2014 08:30am

Quick Tip on the Jump
 
In the NCAA and NBA is a jumper allowed to touch the ball before it reaches the highest point. I see it happen quite often but never seen it called. This leads me to believe that is possibly isn't a rule.

bob jenkins Wed Apr 09, 2014 09:27am

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Originally Posted by jeremy341a (Post 931070)
In the NCAA and NBA is a jumper allowed to touch the ball before it reaches the highest point. I see it happen quite often but never seen it called. This leads me to believe that is possibly isn't a rule.

It's a rule in NCAA.

JRutledge Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:45am

I do not see it called at any level unless it is so obvious it cannot be ignored.

Peace

Rich Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:59am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 931099)
I do not see it called at any level unless it is so obvious it cannot be ignored.

Peace

The other team will get two of the next three alternating possession situations. :D

To be honest, it's a lot more crucial in an overtime period (where the first possession is really meaningful) to not let teams violate obviously, but I agree with Jeff. Unless it's really, really obvious, it's not getting called.

Adam Wed Apr 09, 2014 02:05pm

I called it once in a hs game. I'd had the team two days earlier and got caught by surprise, so I was waiting for it that night. That's the only time I've ever made the call, and it was pretty blatant.

Had them again in my next game and they didn't do it.

Freddy Wed Apr 09, 2014 03:00pm

"Might as Well (not Yet) Jump" -- Van Halen
 
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Originally Posted by jeremy341a (Post 931070)
In the NCAA and NBA is a jumper allowed to touch the ball before it reaches the highest point. I see it happen quite often but never seen it called. This leads me to believe that is possibly isn't a rule.

Only had it once that I can recall. After opening tip the ball is tied up again between 5'5" guard and 6'9" forward. We sent them to the midcourt circle to jump it up and the guard, sensing the only chance he had was to get it on the way up, did so agregiously. Had to be called.
Since coming up with a different way of administering the jump ball -- sorta a "layup" between them, approaching them after a whistle and a bounce of the ball and a step before going up with it -- it seems that they don't anticipate the jump as much and haven't had a problem with it for years.
Might not work for all, but it works for me.
Others I see giving a sort of feint upward before administering the jump ball keeps 'em honest, it appears.
Those failing to make this call when called for seem also to be indifferent regarding RSBQ fouls out top ("That's only a game interrupter--I like to let 'em play."), looking off-ball ("What does 'PCA' stand for again?"), and three seconds ("Oh, I just don't call that in my game").

AremRed Wed Apr 09, 2014 06:06pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 931119)
I'd had the team two days earlier

Had them again in my next game and they didn't do it.

Same team three times in a row??

Rich Wed Apr 09, 2014 06:12pm

I've called this...maybe once every other year or so.

BillyMac Wed Apr 09, 2014 06:30pm

Illegal Tap ...
 
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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 931164)
I've called this...maybe once every other year or so.

Did you have the game clock reset to 8:00 if any time had elapsed?

Rich Wed Apr 09, 2014 06:31pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 931172)
Did you have the game clock reset to 8:00 if any time had elapsed?

Yes. Always.

Adam Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:51pm

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 931161)
Same team three times in a row??

Away, home, away. It was sophomore boys (more like JV in most places), and the assignor was likely not taking into account the away teams. It was before arbiter, and everything was done with phone calls and calendar books.

The third game involved my first in-game fight.

AremRed Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:03pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 931216)
The third game involved my first in-game fight.

What happened?

Camron Rust Thu Apr 10, 2014 12:25am

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 931217)
What happened?

He punched his partner over a blarge??? ;)

Adam Thu Apr 10, 2014 08:18am

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 931217)
What happened?

End of the game, visitors were trying to foul to stop the clock, but V1 decided to bear hug H1 and throw him to the floor. H1 fought back, and his teammate came flying in to help.
Then, after V1 was sent to the bench, his coach, for some inexplicable reason, sent him to the locker room. He flipped off the crowd on his way to the table.


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