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deecee Tue Apr 08, 2014 06:36pm

I heard all officials that didn't make the cut were found to not be wearing all black underwear. Word on the street is that Adams is a stickler for the chonies his guys wear.

twocentsworth Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:25pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 930965)
Ratings are subjective. One could argue that those same officials are rated highest because Adams subconsciously makes the criteria fit those officials that he likes the most.

By definition, criteria are ENTIRELY subjective (not only the actual judgement of each play, but the criteria itself is subject to whomever determines criteria selection).

For the record, John Adams determined the crew that officiated the Duke v Butler Championship game was 70% accurate for the entire game.

If you are comparing the NCAA D1 Tournament assignments to your local HS state association assignments, I think you're confusing two entirely different set of assignment criteria. The NCAA actually records/measures every call (for accuracy) in every game of the tournament. Those officials advance based on call accuracy (among other criteria).

Generally speaking, HS officials are selected/assignment based on metrics that have nothing to do with call accuracy (coaches ratings, other officials ratings, or simply "assignors choice"). Like college, the HS assignments for state tournament games shouldn't be "lifetime achievement awards" or based on a "give a 'new guy' a chance"-theory…..simply assign the BEST official (unfortunately that doesn't happen often).

JRutledge Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:36pm

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Originally Posted by twocentsworth (Post 931055)

Generally speaking, HS officials are selected/assignment based on metrics that have nothing to do with call accuracy (coaches ratings, other officials ratings, or simply "assignors choice"). Like college, the HS assignments for state tournament games shouldn't be "lifetime achievement awards" or based on a "give a 'new guy' a chance"-theory…..simply assign the BEST official (unfortunately that doesn't happen often).

The NCAA has a few more resources than a HS association. Even televised HS games are far and few between.

There are a lot of things that should not be, but what are you going to do to change it if you say it is based on merit? And the whole idea of merit anyway is always a myth. For one what is used as a critieria of merit is going to change based on the person making the decisions and choosing assignments. Even if you say, the best officials should be working, we would still have people complain about who was picked, just like we had here for the NCAA when certain individuals were picked.

Peace

Adam Wed Apr 09, 2014 08:50am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 931024)
What do you mean "There's still the client?"

Peace

He was responding to your "unless you own your own business" comment. Unless you're independently wealthy, you answer to someone.

JRutledge Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:23am

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 931072)
He was responding to your "unless you own your own business" comment. Unless you're independently wealthy, you answer to someone.

You choose to answer to clinents even if you own your own business. But if you have the right model of business, you convicene your clients you are doing the right thing for them. And most clients or customers do not know everything you do behind the scenes.

Peace


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