To Another Player: "You F***ing Suck."

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Rooster

High school club teams....According to one of my partners A1 was a dbag in a previous game and got a T.

Big red warning sign at the start of the game.

Originally Posted by Rooster

I had called a foul on him earlier and he tried the stare-down thing, which I ignored with a 1000 yard stare in another direction.

Given what you knew coming into the game that might have been enough to either address him or even ring him up. Regardless, if the kid who might put s#$! into your game pulls one of those ignoring him may not be the best option.

Originally Posted by Rooster

B1 says something chippy and A1, doing a backward skippy kind of trot says to B1, "You ain't nothing. You f***ing suck." as we were going up the court.

I won't fault you for running the kid but it sounds as though he was provoked in this instance. Since the other kid mouthed off first it probably would've been good to get them both.

Originally Posted by Rooster

"You don't go with a flagrant there. You try that bulls**t in college and you'll have your games taken away or even get fired. That's just bad."
Smaller dog: "A1's team had traveled two hours to be here. They paid to be here. Let him hang himself and we'll run him with his second T."
etc, etc.

1. It's not a college game.
2. It's not your fault the team traveled two hours and paid to be there. If the kid wants to play an entire game - at his current level or the next - he'll learn to keep his mouth shut.

Ultimately, use it as a learning experience.

Originally Posted by Rooster

I had called a foul on him earlier and he tried the stare-down thing, which I ignored with a 1000 yard stare in another direction.

What JetMet said jogged my memory; this is definitely a "Get away from me Steve" situation.

[Rooster]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

I won't fault you for running the kid but it sounds as though he was provoked in this instance. Since the other kid mouthed off first it probably would've been good to get them both.

Originally Posted by LRZ

A1 did respond to some provocation (B1 said "something chippy"), which might have lessened my response from flagrant to ordinary T, but I'm not going to secondguess you for making that call in the context as you saw it.

Originally Posted by BryanV21

I'm curious what the player for Team B actually said. I mean, was what he said perhaps worthy of a regular tech?

It was run of the mill woofing that, if A1 didn't say anything, would have warranted a talking-to as we're heading up the court and if A1 would have said anything other than the magic adjective, I'd like to think I would have had a double T.

Originally Posted by LRZ

I also think your partners could have been a little more supportive: the fact is it was not a college game and for the big dog to call it bullsh*t and "that's just bad" was to question your judgment.

Originally Posted by BryanV21

Your partners sound like a-holes. Especially the first guy, as there's no reason to talk down to you like that. The second guy because his reasoning for not calling the flagrant tech is ridiculous. Travelling far and/or paying to play does not give anybody the right to act a fool.

I've had senior officials talk down to me, too. Not that bad, but enough that it angered me. I had to learn to separate the message from the way it was delivered.

Originally Posted by Adam

I hope your partners didn't rip you on the court for that.

They did, but it was when we we came together to discuss it. I was unhappy with that but I'm trying to implement "separate the message from the delivery" concept.

Originally Posted by Coach Bill

What are high school "club" teams? Is that something less than Varsity?

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Either that, or they are kids that are "Varisty" aged but are not on any school team. Just a glorified rec league.

Yep, a glorified rec league. I'm pretty sure there's no official AAU affiliation. Coaches around here will charge a lot of money per month per kid and they'll have several levels, up to high school kids. Some games are played mostly on Saturdays but for the most part, games are played in tournaments during the summer, with some kids playing on two different teams. It seems hectic and chaotic to me, but I've never been involved in any of that...

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

Big red warning sign at the start of the game.

Given what you knew coming into the game that might have been enough to either address him or even ring him up. Regardless, if the kid who might put s#$! into your game pulls one of those ignoring him may not be the best option.

Originally Posted by AremRed

What JetMet said jogged my memory; this is definitely a "Get away from me Steve" situation.

At this point I still wanted to give him the benefit of a fresh start and didn't want to take the bait. I wasn't going to pick up the rope in his tug-of-war offer.

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

Ultimately, use it as a learning experience.

Definitely, but it becomes more valuable with what's been offered here. Thanks to everyone.