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Nevadaref Fri Mar 28, 2014 06:50pm

Tenn vs Michigan (Video)
 
6:57 of 1st half verticality play: a blocking foul is called on Michigan defender. What does he do wrong? Excellent TV reply too!
6:45 of 1st half Michigan player throws the ball off the backboard deliberately so that he can go get it again. Would love for the NCAA to put this in the rules video for next season and end the debate.

Nevadaref Fri Mar 28, 2014 07:55pm

Huge block/charge crash at 7:02 of the 2nd half.

Nevadaref Fri Mar 28, 2014 08:15pm

28.6 secs left and the crew goes to the monitor for an OOB call and gets it wrong!

bballref3966 Fri Mar 28, 2014 08:23pm

No problem with the player-control foul on Tennessee with 6.0 left.

Freddy Fri Mar 28, 2014 08:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 929574)
Huge block/charge crash at 7:02 of the 2nd half.

Seemed an equally huge charge with 6.0 seconds left. Looked like a good call from my LazyBoy.

Nevadaref Fri Mar 28, 2014 08:27pm

I don't like the PC call. Only contact was with the legs and lower body.
Tough angle for Dave Hall. He couldn't see the left shoulder of the offensive player.

Another monitor review for OOB with 2.9 secs left.

JRutledge Fri Mar 28, 2014 08:31pm

I have no problem with the PC call. Threw his shoulder and body into a legal defender. And even IMO and embellishment, but you still should call if the contact is there. The contact was there.

Peace

MechanicGuy Fri Mar 28, 2014 08:33pm

I think the crew had a rough game all around. I thought two of the foul calls on Maymon (2nd and 4th...one of which the OP may be questioning), and they might have blown two different OOB video reviews.

The "big" PC at the end could've gone either way.

And FWIW, the ball stayed in bounds...so if the options are PC or no-call, the PC helped Tennessee.

Nevadaref Fri Mar 28, 2014 08:54pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by MechanicGuy (Post 929582)
I think the crew had a rough game all around. I thought two of the foul calls on Maymon (2nd and 4th...one of which the OP may be questioning),

The 4th foul on Maymon was harsh. Big man moving and contact is made with his chest.
Quote:

Originally Posted by MechanicGuy (Post 929582)
and they might have blown two different OOB video reviews.

Got the first one wrong, got the second one right.

Larks Fri Mar 28, 2014 08:57pm

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Nevadaref Fri Mar 28, 2014 09:00pm

Someone posting worse video than jeremy!

Larks Fri Mar 28, 2014 09:02pm

Eh, its been a while between posts....

Raymond Fri Mar 28, 2014 09:12pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 929589)
Someone posting worse video than jeremy!

And as bad as jump stop.

Larks Fri Mar 28, 2014 09:16pm

wow...when I started here, video wasnt even possible....my bad

#spoiled

zm1283 Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:56pm

Thought the PC at the end was a flop.

bballref3966 Sat Mar 29, 2014 07:15am

Doesn't mean it isn't a foul
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 929622)
Thought the PC at the end was a flop.

He may have embellished a little, but there was still contact. The mere fact that a player flops does not mean a foul/contact has not occurred. Clearly there was contact and in David Hall's judgment, the contact displaced the legal defender enough to call a foul.

No problem with this call, also wouldn't have had a problem with a no-call.

APG Sat Mar 29, 2014 11:29am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 929560)
6:57 of 1st half verticality play: a blocking foul is called on Michigan defender. What does he do wrong? Excellent TV reply too!
6:45 of 1st half Michigan player throws the ball off the backboard deliberately so that he can go get it again. Would love for the NCAA to put this in the rules video for next season and end the debate.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 929574)
Huge block/charge crash at 7:02 of the 2nd half.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bballref3966 (Post 929578)
No problem with the player-control foul on Tennessee with 6.0 left.

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Camron Rust Sat Mar 29, 2014 01:06pm

Agree with Nevada on the first one...defender looked entirely legal to me.

No problem with the backboard no call.

Not sure what the defender did wrong in the other block/charge. He got into the path before upward motion, well outside the RA. ???

Good charge call at the end.

AremRed Sat Mar 29, 2014 01:19pm

Play 1: Nothing

Play 2: Cool

Play 3: Charge

Play 4: Charge

BillyMac Sat Mar 29, 2014 03:34pm

Now What Fun Would That Be ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 929560)
Would love for the NCAA to put this in the rules video for next season and end the debate.

I would also love the NFHS to follow suit.

But, if they did, what would we argue about every year? We would have to come up with a new annual debatable topic. The off the backboard debate is a classic. I don't think that anything could replace that annual debate.

It's worth another look:

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Yeah, some of these plays can be considered a try, but not this one. No way. No how. Not this one. Not in my game.

JRutledge Sat Mar 29, 2014 08:47pm

Full discloser, big Michigan fan here.
 
Play #1: I do not see why this was a foul. The defender had LGP and retreating and all he did was jump up backwards to defend the play. If anything that is a no call if you ask me.

Play #2: Nothing.

Play #3: Really close, but I think the defender is there. I think this rule has not been well defined IMO and these plays appear to be muddied.

Play #4: I still think this was a good call, PC and embellishment. But still a PC foul.

Peace


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