Shooting Foul? (Video)

[Raymond]

From Saturday's Pitt/UF game.

12:11 of the first half UF is given a 2-shot foul on a drive to the basket.

That's all I'll leave for the description, don't want to influence anyone's opinion.

[APG]

[BillyMac]

In my high school game, as the calling official, I'm immediately yelling, "That's a pass". I know that it's not by the book, or any book, but we're not robots. At least, not yet.

[CNYREF]

I think 2 shots was correct it seems to me the foul on the arm made the ball come out as if it were a pass he seemed to be trying to shoot watch his follow through... If it's close why not reward the non fouling team is my thought

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by CNYREF

I think 2 shots was correct it seems to me the foul on the arm made the ball come out as if it were a pass he seemed to be trying to shoot watch his follow through...

I see your point, but in a real game, in real time, with only one quick look, I'm making a quick judgment call, and only the player fouled will know if I'm right, or wrong.

Pass off. If you want the shots, continue to shoot. I'm not going to guess which one you intended.

Now in a situation like the one at the end of Wichita State-Kentucky where the ball lands at your feet and there is nowhere to go but up.....that's a different story.

[Adam]

I see the foul knocking the ball out, and a teammate just happens to be in position to catch the ball. That's not a pass, IMO. The L is in a great spot to see the whole thing.

[twocentsworth]

Just because the ball is knocked out of a players hands and goes directly to a teammate, does not mean it's a pass. The Lead, who has the play coming directly at him, sees the offensive player gather the ball, start his upward motion, and follow thru to shoot - only to have the ball deflected to a teammate.

He correctly ruled two shots. That's what it was….a shot.

[Raymond]

I don't have a foul. I have the defender knocking the ball out of A1's hands.

[deecee]

i had 2 shots on first view. Don't see what's so tough about this. didn't look like a pass at all IMO.

EDIT: this play and the one from a previous discussion are TWO completely different things. One was an intended pass and one was an intended shot that looked like a pass because the foul dislodged the ball. Completely different plays.

[OKREF]

That's two shots. Started to shoot, got hacked and the ball got deflected

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by OKREF

That's two shots. Started to shoot, got hacked and the ball got deflected

When I first saw the play I was perplexed as to why he was given 2 shots. Now that I have a chance to see it replayed I agree he was going up and the ball popped out to Young.

However, when I saw it on TV I thought there was no foul to begin with, and after seeing the replay, I still think there was no foul.

[SAJ]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

When I first saw the play I was perplexed as to why he was given 2 shots. Now that I have a chance to see it replayed I agree he was going up and the ball popped out to Young.

However, when I saw it on TV I thought there was no foul to begin with, and after seeing the replay, I still think there was no foul.

I could go with a no foul if I had a look at primary defenders actions on the ball handlers left arm. The L has a good look at that play so I'm going to believe there was contact.

[Indianaref]

Originally Posted by SAJ

I could go with a no foul if I had a look at primary defenders actions on the ball handlers left arm. The L has a good look at that play so I'm going to believe there was contact.

Correct. You can not tell from camera angle if #13 made contact or not. I defer to the lead official, the one who had the best look.