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Old Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:33pm
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Not being caught previously doesn't give them the right to break the rules. If I speed on the way to work everyday and don't get caught till Friday I bet I am still getting a ticket. I gambled and lost just like they do when preforming an illegal move.
This is true except more accurately you are speeding to work everyday but do not know the speed limit/ that you are speeding. Also everyday you drive by a police officer whos is allowing you to travel at that speed. Then one day on the way to work a different officer pulls you over and informs you that you've been speeding and you are getting a ticket.

He's not wrong but I bet you are way more pissed off than if the first guy had pulled you over and warned u/ given you a ticket on Monday.
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Old Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:05pm
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This is true except more accurately you are speeding to work everyday but do not know the speed limit/ that you are speeding. Also everyday you drive by a police officer whos is allowing you to travel at that speed. Then one day on the way to work a different officer pulls you over and informs you that you've been speeding and you are getting a ticket.

He's not wrong but I bet you are way more pissed off than if the first guy had pulled you over and warned u/ given you a ticket on Monday.
Coaches get pissed off all the time. I can't base my officiating on how other people call games. If I had a dollar for every time a coach said this (in 3 sports), I could retire.

All we can try to do is educate through our associations and get people to call the games consistently.
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Old Tue Mar 25, 2014, 04:02pm
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Not being caught previously doesn't give them the right to break the rules. If I speed on the way to work everyday and don't get caught till Friday I bet I am still getting a ticket. I gambled and lost just like they do when preforming an illegal move.
With a travel the kid may not even realize (s)he is doing it if they haven't been nailed for it. I dinged a kid on three straight trips in a game two years ago and he got ticked (he would catch the ball and do a three-step shuffle - without dribbling - to set himself before getting his shot off). The HC calmed him down and definitely wasn't upset with me. The HC eventually told me:

"Ref, you're absolutely right. Those were travels. He's just upset because (wait for it...) no one has called him for it this season."

The game was in January. That's our fault.
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Old Tue Mar 25, 2014, 04:40pm
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With a travel the kid may not even realize (s)he is doing it if they haven't been nailed for it. I dinged a kid on three straight trips in a game two years ago and he got ticked (he would catch the ball and do a three-step shuffle - without dribbling - to set himself before getting his shot off). The HC calmed him down and definitely wasn't upset with me. The HC eventually told me:

"Ref, you're absolutely right. Those were travels. He's just upset because (wait for it...) no one has called him for it this season."

The game was in January. That's our fault.
I have had one like that in baseball already. Kid does this half windup half stretch thing that is a balk every time. Balked him on a Wednesday. Partner balked him on Friday. Following Wednesday I balked him again. "He's been doing that all year - no one has called it on him yet." Partner (who says what I think quite often) beat me to it with "Sir, I believe you need to upgrade your facial recognition software." and walked away.
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Old Tue Mar 25, 2014, 05:19pm
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I have had one like that in baseball already. Kid does this half windup half stretch thing that is a balk every time. Balked him on a Wednesday. Partner balked him on Friday. Following Wednesday I balked him again. "He's been doing that all year - no one has called it on him yet." Partner (who says what I think quite often) beat me to it with "Sir, I believe you need to upgrade your facial recognition software." and walked away.
I put no stock in the "no one has called it all year" comment. It may be true, but it's at least as likely to not be even close to true.
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This is true except more accurately you are speeding to work everyday but do not know the speed limit/ that you are speeding. Also everyday you drive by a police officer whos is allowing you to travel at that speed. Then one day on the way to work a different officer pulls you over and informs you that you've been speeding and you are getting a ticket.

He's not wrong but I bet you are way more pissed off than if the first guy had pulled you over and warned u/ given you a ticket on Monday.
It's still not the cops fault that you got a ticket for speeding. It's yours.
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Old Tue Mar 25, 2014, 05:42pm
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I put no stock in the "no one has called it all year" comment. It may be true, but it's at least as likely to not be even close to true.
I think a lot of times it has at least some truth to it, particularly with the spin move. Player catches in the post with his back to the basket, makes the same move 3 times in a row. I call the travel 3 times in a row. I don't believe he just started using that move tonight.
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