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AremRed Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:56pm

Saint Louis-Louisville (Video)
 
I would like video of the no-call from 17:16-17:09 in the first half.

Zoochy Sun Mar 23, 2014 01:21pm

While you are at it. How about the non-traveling violation @ 10:00 of 1st half then immediately following the foul on Rob Loe.

APG Sun Mar 23, 2014 03:51pm

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 928313)
I would like video of the no-call from 17:16-17:09 in the first half.

I'm going to assume your time is off because nothing happens except for some passing at 17:16-17:09. I'm going to assume you want this play:

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="//www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/8xytzNl5ifA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Travel No Call:

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="//www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/z0nbJexYnTo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Adam Sun Mar 23, 2014 04:13pm

On the dunk, I don't see any real impact on the shot or the shooter, but it could arguably go either way.

On the would-be-travel, in real speed, it looked like he "may" have lost control on the way up (fumble).

AremRed Sun Mar 23, 2014 04:29pm

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Originally Posted by APG (Post 928423)
I'm going to assume your time is off because nothing happens except for some passing at 17:16-17:09.

I don't get my time wrong. There is a closely guarded situation where the official slows down his count in order to not call it. By my watch is the player is closely guarded for 6.8 seconds.

Zoochy Sun Mar 23, 2014 04:32pm

OK... He looses control on the way up. But once he returns both feet to the ground, he jumps to turn around and changes his pivot foot from his right to his left. He covers a lot of ground. I thought you only have 1 pivot foot?:D Plus, where is the contact for the foul???

twocentsworth Sun Mar 23, 2014 07:33pm

These are both pretty easy plays that I was VERY surprised WEREN'T called when I watched it live.

Dunk play: that's a foul.
Travel play: that's a travel.

OKREF Sun Mar 23, 2014 07:53pm

No foul on the dunk.

No travel on the initial move, fumbles the ball. May have traveled after that.

Raymond Sun Mar 23, 2014 08:20pm

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 928428)
I don't get my time wrong. There is a closely guarded situation where the official slows down his count in order to not call it. By my watch is the player is closely guarded for 6.8 seconds.

Might help next time to describe what you are looking for in addition to a time stamp.

Raymond Sun Mar 23, 2014 08:21pm

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Originally Posted by Zoochy (Post 928429)
OK... He looses control on the way up. But once he returns both feet to the ground, he jumps to turn around and changes his pivot foot from his right to his left. He covers a lot of ground. I thought you only have 1 pivot foot?:D Plus, where is the contact for the foul???

The foul is a POE this season, walking into the shooter while "showing hands".

Raymond Sun Mar 23, 2014 08:22pm

I have a foul on the dunk if I'm the Lead.

JRutledge Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:31am

The first play can go either way. He made the basket, he came down under some level of control and it was not a rough play. I probably would have called a foul on this play, but it would have been a hard look for sure.

The second play it was a travel after he came back to the floor and made a move. Someone completely did not look at the pivot foot at all.

Peace

AremRed Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:46am

I would like video of the no-called closely-guarded situation from 17:16-17:09 in the first half.

Camron Rust Tue Mar 25, 2014 01:22pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 928836)
The first play can go either way. He made the basket, he came down under some level of control and it was not a rough play. I probably would have called a foul on this play, but it would have been a hard look for sure.

The second play it was a travel after he came back to the floor and made a move. Someone completely did not look at the pivot foot at all.

Peace

Agree on both....50/50 on the foul depending on the game and what had been called before.

AremRed Sun Apr 06, 2014 06:09am

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 928840)
I would like video of the no-called closely-guarded situation from 17:16-17:09 in the first half.

Bump.


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