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Old Sun Mar 23, 2014, 09:15am
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Totally agree. You can't call that when the game is on the line!!
So you're philosophy is throw the rule book out in the final seconds?
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Old Sun Mar 23, 2014, 09:25am
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So you're philosophy is throw the rule book out in the final seconds?
I can't tell if his left foot is still down when he gathers the dribble, so it's not clear to me that this is a travel. If it's not clear, you probably shouldn't call it.
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Old Sun Mar 23, 2014, 10:13am
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I can't tell if his left foot is still down when he gathers the dribble, so it's not clear to me that this is a travel. If it's not clear, you probably shouldn't call it.
I can't tell from the video either, and my philosophy on travels is similar to yours. In fact I probably call the fewest travels amongst other officials. I was commenting on their point of view regarding what calls to make when the game is "on the line".
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Old Sun Mar 23, 2014, 10:48am
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The OP is on some kind of crusade without having an understanding of traveling or the concept of a gather or a pivot foot being able to leave the floor as long as it doesn't return.
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Old Sun Mar 23, 2014, 11:01am
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are you competing with Jeremy for worst Video Awards?
jeremy wins for most quantity of worst video, jump stop wins for worst quality of video.

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So you're philosophy is throw the rule book out in the final seconds?
I was being sarcastic. Enforce the rules as written at all times.

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The OP is on some kind of crusade without having an understanding of traveling or the concept of a gather or a pivot foot being able to leave the floor as long as it doesn't return.
If jump stop's account wasn't three years old I would have thought we are hearing from potato again.
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Old Sun Mar 23, 2014, 11:46am
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The OP is on some kind of crusade without having an understanding of traveling or the concept of a gather or a pivot foot being able to leave the floor as long as it doesn't return.
I agree I need some better video skills

Stop video at :48 Ball clearly gathered with 2 hands with left foot on floor, he swings ball over his head and right foot is now on floor ( so now left foot is established as pivot foot), he then brings left foot back to floor and shoots. My crusade is that this is a clear travel that does not get called.
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Old Sun Mar 23, 2014, 11:49am
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I agree I need some better video skills

Stop video at :48 Ball clearly gathered with 2 hands with left foot on floor, he swings ball over his head and right foot is now on floor ( so now left foot is established as pivot foot), he then brings left foot back to floor and shoots. My crusade is that this is a clear travel that does not get called.
I call as many travels as anyone, and I don't see it here. If you have to freeze frame, back up, and slow motion to see it, I'd rather not call it.

On this play, even with those features, I can't tell.
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Old Sun Mar 23, 2014, 12:06pm
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There's a guy on my old board named Randy that is known for accurate travel calls. I'd like to see him on these games. He'd call them I know he would. lol
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Old Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:01pm
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I agree I need some better video skills

Stop video at :48 Ball clearly gathered with 2 hands with left foot on floor, he swings ball over his head and right foot is now on floor ( so now left foot is established as pivot foot), he then brings left foot back to floor and shoots. My crusade is that this is a clear travel that does not get called.
I'm glad you call this a crusade because you could be fighting this cause for a long time...... I just don't see a travel and quite frankly if you called this on a consistent basis, I don't think you would be around that long in a certain leagues.

As far as the whole Jeremy thing, I think we may have scared him away !!!!!
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Old Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:34pm
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Stop video at :48 Ball clearly gathered with both hands.
Your definition of clearly and mine seem to differ greatly. I can't even see 4/5 of the ball, nor can I see one of the hands, at 0:48. If you can, I applaud you on your xray vision, sir.

Not a travel. Not at any point in the game.
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