Euro step travel last minute Dayton/Syr no way it gets called

Originally Posted by jump stop

Not gonna get called when games on the line??

Totally agree. You can't call that when the game is on the line!!

[just another ref]

Not gonna get called when the game's not on the line.

[Raymond]

are you competing with Jeremy for worst Video Awards?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

are you competing with Jeremy for worst Video Awards?

Seriously!

Perhaps he could take the video above and play it on a first generation iPhone and record it with a BetaMax Camcorder, play that back on a 1960's TV then record that with a modern cell phone.

Oh, wait, he already did that.


For those that feel that the video is so important that they have to shakily handhold a cell phone with their finger partly covering the lens to record what is showing on their TV....just don't.

[jeremy341a]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

are you competing with Jeremy for worst Video Awards?

Yeah but I just posted other bad videos. I didn't make them. I think I lost my spot on the throne.

[JRutledge]

I am sorry, I do not see a travel.

Peace

[ballgame99]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I am sorry, I do not see a travel.

Peace

the view from the back (:48 of video) shows the left foot down and dribble ended (both hands on ball), steps on to right foot, steps on to left foot again, finish. I didn't catch it watching live, or from the sideline angle. So I'm in the group that says this is a travel but one that I would probably not call unless I had a completely unobstructed view and knew what I was looking at.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

the view from the back (:48 of video) shows the left foot down and dribble ended (both hands on ball), steps on to right foot, steps on to left foot again, finish. I didn't catch it watching live, or from the sideline angle. So I'm in the group that says this is a travel but one that I would probably not call unless I had a completely unobstructed view and knew what I was looking at.

You do not see the ball clearly, which is one of the most important part of calling a travel. All angles are obstructed to some extent and it is a judgment if you feel that he has completely gathered the ball with a foot on the floor or in the air.

To me it has to be very obvious, not something we have to slow down to see.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

the view from the back (:48 of video) shows the left foot down and dribble ended (both hands on ball), steps on to right foot, steps on to left foot again, finish. I didn't catch it watching live, or from the sideline angle. So I'm in the group that says this is a travel but one that I would probably not call unless I had a completely unobstructed view and knew what I was looking at.

Two hands on the ball doesn't mean he's gathered/possessed it. Those on this crusade seem to be wanting to judge the pivot foot the instant the ball is touched.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Totally agree. You can't call that when the game is on the line!!

So you're philosophy is throw the rule book out in the final seconds?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by deecee

So you're philosophy is throw the rule book out in the final seconds?

I can't tell if his left foot is still down when he gathers the dribble, so it's not clear to me that this is a travel. If it's not clear, you probably shouldn't call it.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Adam

I can't tell if his left foot is still down when he gathers the dribble, so it's not clear to me that this is a travel. If it's not clear, you probably shouldn't call it.

I can't tell from the video either, and my philosophy on travels is similar to yours. In fact I probably call the fewest travels amongst other officials. I was commenting on their point of view regarding what calls to make when the game is "on the line".

[Rich]

The OP is on some kind of crusade without having an understanding of traveling or the concept of a gather or a pivot foot being able to leave the floor as long as it doesn't return.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

are you competing with Jeremy for worst Video Awards?

jeremy wins for most quantity of worst video, jump stop wins for worst quality of video.

Originally Posted by deecee

So you're philosophy is throw the rule book out in the final seconds?

I was being sarcastic. Enforce the rules as written at all times.

Originally Posted by Rich

The OP is on some kind of crusade without having an understanding of traveling or the concept of a gather or a pivot foot being able to leave the floor as long as it doesn't return.

If jump stop's account wasn't three years old I would have thought we are hearing from potato again.

[jump stop]

Originally Posted by Rich

The OP is on some kind of crusade without having an understanding of traveling or the concept of a gather or a pivot foot being able to leave the floor as long as it doesn't return.

I agree I need some better video skills

Stop video at :48 Ball clearly gathered with 2 hands with left foot on floor, he swings ball over his head and right foot is now on floor ( so now left foot is established as pivot foot), he then brings left foot back to floor and shoots. My crusade is that this is a clear travel that does not get called.