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Old Sat Mar 22, 2014, 02:07pm
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I don't see much contact, if any, there.
Left arm of defender into right arm of shooter, with the possibility of a little (I said a little) body to body contact, that results in the shooter falling to the floor? In my high school game, I've got a foul here, that I've got to make from the lead in my Connecticut two person game. (Note: I picked Virginia Commonwealth.)
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Old Sat Mar 22, 2014, 02:20pm
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Left arm of defender into right arm of shooter, with the possibility of a little (I said a little) body to body contact, that results in the shooter falling to the floor? In my high school game, I've got a foul here, that I've got to make from the lead in my Connecticut two person game. (Note: I picked Virginia Commonwealth.)
I don't see any contact with the arms and little, if any, body contact with the angle of the camera view here.

With the where the T was located, he didn't see any of that. He saw the shooter falling with the defender jumping into him. I'd likely call a foul too.
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Old Sat Mar 22, 2014, 02:29pm
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Left arm of defender into right arm of shooter,
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I don't see any contact with the arms.
Wow. We certainly have chosen a very difficult avocation. Two competent officials (I'm assuming you're competent), looking at a play that we can rewind over, and over, again, in real time, and in slow motion, and we can't come up with the same call. In a real game we have to make this judgment almost instantly. No wonder we get paid big bucks to do this. I'm also surprised that we get paid big bucks to do this (coming up with two very different calls on the same play).
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Old Sat Mar 22, 2014, 02:50pm
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There is contact, and though it may not be a lot it's probably a foul. The bigger question is why is that kid even contesting a shot when they are up 4 points.
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Old Sat Mar 22, 2014, 02:53pm
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Definitely foul. There was contact, even though not a lot, but it was on an airborne shooter and helped put him to the floor.

But quite frankly, this is just a dumb foul. And the look on this player's face after their defeat in OT said it all. He knew that he had cost his team the game.
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Old Sat Mar 22, 2014, 04:05pm
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Watch the play from the end zone which begins at 22 seconds into the clip. The team A shooter had already dropped his right hip to "propel" himself to the ground before the B player was close enough for contact worthy of a foul.

I've got a no call here.
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Old Sat Mar 22, 2014, 05:27pm
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I think the shooter flopped and created the contact.

The primary contact was both with the shooters left arm after the shot was gone and he deliberately dropped his left arm into a position so that the defender would catch it (it was even more like the shooter hooked the defenders arm as it went by) and also with the shooters right arm that he also deliberately dropped around the defender's torso/back, neither of which had anything to do with his shooting motion. He made Reggie Miller proud!

Defender has to be smarter than that though. If he'd played intelligently, he would have never been close enough to get suckered into that.
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