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Old Fri Mar 21, 2014, 01:35pm
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The shot clock never moved once they inbounded the ball. The assistant coaches alerted Miles to that. Was he wrong for going to the scorer's table? Definitely, but should the shot clock be stuck on 15 for 3 or 4 seconds without any of the officials recognizing that, probably not! Numerous touch fouls on both ends, terrible to watch. Nebraska wasn't going to win shooting 25%. Karl Hess is my hero, I will leave it at that!
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Old Fri Mar 21, 2014, 04:56pm
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I wish someone would tell me what a "touch foul" is.

If contact places an opponent at a disadvantage, it's a foul, no matter how minimal the contact is. If a player gains an advantage with contact, it's a foul, no matter how minimal the contact is. I'm 100% sure that the three guys on the floor are much more familiar with how John Adams wants the game called than anyone hear.

Know the rules, go to the table, request a timeout for the shot clock mistake and you don't get tossed.
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Old Fri Mar 21, 2014, 05:01pm
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I wish someone would tell me what a "touch foul" is.

If contact places an opponent at a disadvantage, it's a foul, no matter how minimal the contact is. If a player gains an advantage with contact, it's a foul, no matter how minimal the contact is. I'm 100% sure that the three guys on the floor are much more familiar with how John Adams wants the game called than anyone hear.

Know the rules, go to the table, request a timeout for the shot clock mistake and you don't get tossed.
I have no dog in this hunt ... but there were far too many fouls called that the vast majority of NCAA referees would have not called. Incidental contact that didn't affect the game at all, that sort of thing.
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Old Fri Mar 21, 2014, 05:06pm
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I have no dog in this hunt ... but there were far too many fouls called that the vast majority of NCAA referees would have not called. Incidental contact that didn't affect the game at all, that sort of thing.
Well, that wasn't incidental contact on the second play. He wasn't arguing the foul, he was talking about the shot clock. It just looked like he was arguing the call. However he had no rope left because he complained the whole time he was in the game.
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Old Fri Mar 21, 2014, 05:52pm
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2nd T

JetMet, thanks for posting. After seeing this, I'm having a really hard time deciding how I would handle that situation (the 2nd T).

Miles was clearly pointing at the table, trying to get their attention, and Hess wasted no time sticking him without even trying to understand WHY he was flagging them down/pointing at the table.

As we've discussed in other threads, officials have been known to 'un-do' a T...and if Mr. Hess took 2-3 seconds to listen, he probably wouldn't have sent Miles packing early. I can also see the argument that Miles ran out of leash...this is a tough one!
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Old Fri Mar 21, 2014, 06:35pm
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Miles was clearly pointing at the table, trying to get their attention, and Hess wasted no time sticking him without even trying to understand WHY he was flagging them down/pointing at the table.
Matt, look at the replay at around 1:53. He is walking toward the division line waving his arms. Only after Hess starts towards him does he point at the table. By then, it's too late.
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Old Fri Mar 21, 2014, 07:54pm
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Matt, look at the replay at around 1:53. He is walking toward the division line waving his arms. Only after Hess starts towards him does he point at the table. By then, it's too late.
Good point...it's too bad (I'm not a Nebraskan) because if you've ever listened to Miles or seen him in action he is one of the most-sportsmanlike coaches I've ever seen...definitely got caught up in the moment today.
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Old Fri Mar 21, 2014, 11:35pm
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Matt, look at the replay at around 1:53. He is walking toward the division line waving his arms. Only after Hess starts towards him does he point at the table. By then, it's too late.
Just curious, are you saying that walking towards the division line waving ones arms is sufficient for getting a (2nd) technical?
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Old Fri Mar 21, 2014, 06:40pm
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The shot clock never moved once they inbounded the ball. The assistant coaches alerted Miles to that. Was he wrong for going to the scorer's table? Definitely, but should the shot clock be stuck on 15 for 3 or 4 seconds without any of the officials recognizing that, probably not! Numerous touch fouls on both ends, terrible to watch. Nebraska wasn't going to win shooting 25%. Karl Hess is my hero, I will leave it at that!
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