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Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Sat Mar 15, 2014 07:16pm

Video Request--MAC Men's Championship Game
 
I would like a video of the MAC Men's Championship game between Toledo and Western Michigan at the 6:37 mark of the second half. Thanks.

MTD, Sr.

JetMetFan Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:49pm

video added
 
Here's the play...


<iframe width="853" height="480" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/5ZWFKfXc5jU?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

BryanV21 Sun Mar 16, 2014 01:11pm

Yikes.

Looked like a clear PC foul to me.

just another ref Sun Mar 16, 2014 01:14pm

Pc

Lcubed48 Sun Mar 16, 2014 02:46pm

I see a PC.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Sun Mar 16, 2014 03:29pm

I thought so too. The official who made the call is a personal friend and a very good college official.

MTD, Sr.

dahoopref Sun Mar 16, 2014 03:59pm

Such a tough play but I will go with PC.

What a regional observer told me is is the Lead official must recognize the number of players on one side of the court and realize he must anticipate rotating to the strong side. The L needed to rotate when the ball reached to the top of the key. Granted, the backdoor cut happened quickly but I believe if the L had rotated, he would've been in better position to officiate at the play.

Raymond Sun Mar 16, 2014 04:04pm

The NCAA has Men's officials afraid to properly call PC fouls on plays like this.

JugglingReferee Sun Mar 16, 2014 06:16pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 927276)
The NCAA has Men's officials afraid to properly call PC fouls on plays like this.

I tend to agree.

Camron Rust Sun Mar 16, 2014 06:50pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 927276)
The NCAA has Men's officials afraid to properly call PC fouls on plays like this.

Yep.

Saw one miscalled like this in a championship game here in Oregon too. Defender there all day and they still tagged him with a block. :(

johnny d Sun Mar 16, 2014 10:28pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 927266)
I thought so too. The official who made the call is a personal friend and a very good college official.

MTD, Sr.


I like Bill too, but it looks like he got that one wrong.

AremRed Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:24pm

I wonder what he was thinking on this play. He was looking right at the defender the whole time.

Side note: if he pointed at the RA and a partner came with info that the defender was outside, the call would change right? RA is the only reason I can think why he called a block.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:21am

Quote:

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 927329)
I wonder what he was thinking on this play. He was looking right at the defender the whole time.

Side note: if he pointed at the RA and a partner came with info that the defender was outside, the call would change right? RA is the only reason I can think why he called a block.


Whether the defender was in the RA or not ( he wasn't) I would not consider the defender a secondary defender in this play because of how far away from the basket the dribbler was when he got around the first defender.

MTD, Sr.

ballgame99 Mon Mar 17, 2014 09:12am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 927331)
Whether the defender was in the RA or not ( he wasn't) I would not consider the defender a secondary defender in this play because of how far away from the basket the dribbler was when he got around the first defender.

MTD, Sr.

I'm not sure how you can say this. It is a back door cut to get behind the primary defender. This pretty much looks like the definitition of a secondary defender.

And its a PC everyday and twice on Sunday.

johnny d Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:04am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 927331)
Whether the defender was in the RA or not ( he wasn't) I would not consider the defender a secondary defender in this play because of how far away from the basket the dribbler was when he got around the first defender.

MTD, Sr.

The defender was clearly a secondary defender. Play happened outside the RA, so it doesn't matter.


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