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Old Sat Mar 15, 2014, 05:40pm
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SWAC Men's Championship Game--Video Request

Texas Southern had the ball and there was a blocking foul called against Prairie View A&M with 3:25 left in the Second Half. I would appreciate someone posting the video. I would have called it a charge. Thank you in advance.

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Old Sun Mar 16, 2014, 12:29pm
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Since one official signaled block, and the other signaled charge, then I'm going with a double foul. Wait? I'm being told ... What? Another thread? Discussion? Never mind.
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Old Sun Mar 16, 2014, 01:14pm
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I think I have an offensive foul.

The defender has LGP, and then looks like he slides sideways and to the side... not towards the dribbler. And the kicker to me is seeing the dribbler extend an elbow.
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Old Sun Mar 16, 2014, 01:40pm
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Player Control Foul ...

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...he slides sideways ... not toward the dribbler ... the dribbler extend an elbow.
Agree. It's not needed, but the elbow is the icing on the cake.
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Old Sun Mar 16, 2014, 02:54pm
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I think I have an offensive foul.

The defender has LGP, and then looks like he slides sideways and to the side... not towards the dribbler. And the kicker to me is seeing the dribbler extend an elbow.
What he said. PC.
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Old Sun Mar 16, 2014, 03:32pm
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I had a PC too.

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Old Sun Mar 16, 2014, 04:08pm
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Initial contact should have been a foul per the emphasis on rule 10-1-4, but at the point the whistle was blown, that should have been a PC.
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I think the NCAA has officials steering away from calling PCs. This is textbook PC.
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Old Mon Mar 17, 2014, 10:03am
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I think the NCAA has officials steering away from calling PCs. This is textbook PC.
Totally agree with this. It seems that they are always defaulting to a blocking foul for every block/charge play when they really should be doing it on shooting block charges(upward motion) and not on drive plays such as this. These non shooting non upward plays should be called the same before. That is great defense being penalized.
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Old Mon Mar 17, 2014, 01:14pm
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Initial contact should have been a foul per the emphasis on rule 10-1-4, but at the point the whistle was blown, that should have been a PC.
Really? I don't see the defender gaining any advantage from that momentary touching with the hands. In fact I see the contact uncalled in every D1 game I watch. I know it's a POE, but something that brief? Not a foul. Ant versus elephant.
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Old Mon Mar 17, 2014, 01:49pm
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Really? I don't see the defender gaining any advantage from that momentary touching with the hands. In fact I see the contact uncalled in every D1 game I watch. I know it's a POE, but something that brief? Not a foul. Ant versus elephant.
And even if they were, it wouldn't be a block as was signaled.
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Old Mon Mar 17, 2014, 01:55pm
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Really? I don't see the defender gaining any advantage from that momentary touching with the hands. In fact I see the contact uncalled in every D1 game I watch. I know it's a POE, but something that brief? Not a foul. Ant versus elephant.
I disagree. The contact beforehand by the defender was an arm bar, not a touching with the hands. This action, even when brief has been called much more consistently as a foul than the brief touching with hands has been. The arm bar call does not require a judgment as to whether or not the defender gained an advantage, it falls under one of Adam's automatics. Also, touching with a hand is legal. It does not become illegal until it is done repeatedly, continuously, or with both hands.
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