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pfan1981 Mon Mar 10, 2014 07:43pm

Anyone have video of RARE PC? (Verticality)
 
In another post we were discussing verticality. Has anyone ever seen video of a vertical airborne defender getting plowed over? And better yet, an official calling a charge. By the letter of the law that is his space, from the floor to the ceiling.

I know a lot of us like a no call in a situation where a defender jumps straight up and the offense jumps into them to draw a foul.

Some on this forum said they have called a PC, so there must be video evidence somewhere.

Pfan

JRutledge Mon Mar 10, 2014 07:51pm

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This is the best I can do. It was not a foul, but some believe there should have been. I am not in agreement with that way of thinking.

Peace

AremRed Mon Mar 10, 2014 08:28pm

Your wish is my command.

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jeschmit Mon Mar 10, 2014 09:34pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 926567)
Your wish is my command.

Please forgive my ignorance on the NBE rules, but what's the ruling with the RA? Is this ignored on this play, or does the RA have a totally different ruling as compared to the NCAA?

(I guess on second look, you could say that LBJ extended his knee therefore eliminating the RA.)

BryanV21 Mon Mar 10, 2014 09:45pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 926565)
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This is the best I can do. It was not a foul, but some believe there should have been. I am not in agreement with that way of thinking.

Peace

I like the no-call here.

pfan1981 Mon Mar 10, 2014 09:58pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 926567)
Your wish is my command.

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Bingo! How many of you would call this?

Raymond Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:02pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeschmit (Post 926568)
Please forgive my ignorance on the NBE rules, but what's the ruling with the RA? Is this ignored on this play, or does the RA have a totally different ruling as compared to the NCAA?

(I guess on second look, you could say that LBJ extended his knee therefore eliminating the RA.)

Even in NCAA the RA wouldn't apply b/c Hibbert was not trying to draw a charge, he was playing active defense and trying to block the shot.

APG Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:22pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeschmit (Post 926568)
Please forgive my ignorance on the NBE rules, but what's the ruling with the RA? Is this ignored on this play, or does the RA have a totally different ruling as compared to the NCAA?

(I guess on second look, you could say that LBJ extended his knee therefore eliminating the RA.)

In the NBA, the RA does not apply to a defender who alights in an attempt to block a shot.

JetMetFan Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:20am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 926565)
It was not a foul, but some believe there should have been.

I can see how some would want a foul. If the rebound had come off to the same side of the basket as the shooter the contact would've left him in a more advantageous position. Of course, you're not going to know that until you see which way the ball bounces.

Rooster Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:22am

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Originally Posted by pfan1981 (Post 926570)
Bingo! How many of you would call this?

I can tell you I'm not no-calling this and I'm not calling it a block... Nor am I going with travel. :) If I'm the L on this type of play it's going the other way too. This was a good call on a very big stage with a very big star. Steely of nerve. Does anyone have any links to the post-game comments? Clearly Pat wasn't impressed, not that it matters.

I just wonder if our little bodies (as compared to Red 6 :p) at the high school level can create this much of an impact in the air. Tough to get to the to-and-through threshold. One could argue that it wasn't met in this play either. That might be why it gets no-called a lot. Just my little big bang theory.

AremRed Tue Mar 11, 2014 01:18am

As seen in the other thread, contact with a vertical defender is very tempting to call a block. I just saw a similar play in tonight's CAA championship game between Delaware and William and Mary. I couldn't find the game on ESPN3, but the play is at 0:51 in the second half.


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