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BillyMac Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:05am

Don't Touch The Players ...
 
Hockey Ref Arrested After Escorting Player Off Ice: Police | NBC Connecticut

JugglingReferee Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:18am

Lesson to learn for all.

If the player doesn't leave after the initial instruction to do so, give the HC or GM a timed chance to have him removed. If there is no complying, it's a forfeit.

Raymond Sun Mar 09, 2014 01:17pm

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 926370)
Lesson to learn for all.

If the player doesn't leave after the initial instruction to do so, give the HC or GM a timed chance to have him removed. If there is no complying, it's a forfeit.

And if an object is thrown at you, go swear out a warrant on the player.

grunewar Sun Mar 09, 2014 04:53pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 926377)
And if an object is thrown at you, go swear out a warrant on the player.

Glossed over in the article.....guess that's ok. I mean, gee, he's only a kid. :(

JRutledge Sun Mar 09, 2014 05:09pm

I am not taking an ass whoopin from a kid. Sorry, not happening. I will take my chances in court. And in that sport many think fighting is the way to go to show your distain.

Peace

bainsey Sun Mar 09, 2014 07:05pm

There are a lot of follow up questions here, as to what constitutes an escort, or illegal physical contact, or what an official can(not) do, or if a kid attacking an official gives the official a greater right to be physical with the kid. (It sure works that way with police officers.)

JetMetFan Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:49am

This is a tough one because as anyone here who's a hockey parent knows there's really no way GM can help you if a player doesn't leave. Officials are supposed to escort ejected players off the ice but if (s)he doesn't go the only thing you can do by rule - from what I've found with a quick search, at least - is give the player a game misconduct. All that means is (s)he is affected for the next game(s). I guess you could call a delay of game penalty which would punish the remaining players on that team but if someone doesn't go you pretty much have to wait.

In our sport at least you can get an AD, security or other administrator out there to help you...especially since they don't have to be wearing skates.

And Jeff, North American professional hockey is the only branch of the sport that allows fighting without an ejection ;). Any other level - and anywhere else in the world - you're done.

AremRed Mon Mar 10, 2014 01:44am

I found this article which has a little more information. One witness (parent for the other team) did not see the referee touch the player. She said the other teams fans started it, and added that the refs had been verbally abused during that game and in another previous game. In fact this altercation was the second time police had been called to the rink that weekend.

Also, this referee is listed as a commissioner on his association/chapters website.

Bonus: More rink rage!

JetMetFan Mon Mar 10, 2014 01:54am

The truth is always going to be somewhere in the middle. I'm surprised no one has put video online. Even not-so-nutty parents - like me - record all their kids' games if only for nostalgia.

If that was the second time police visited that venue during the weekend those folks have other issues to deal with.

JRutledge Mon Mar 10, 2014 08:05am

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Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 926428)
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And Jeff, North American professional hockey is the only branch of the sport that allows fighting without an ejection ;). Any other level - and anywhere else in the world - you're done.

I know, that is why Olympic Hockey is enjoyable to watch. But that mentality seems to filter down to other levels where it seems like fighting or almost fighting is accepted.

Peace


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