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Nevadaref Thu Mar 06, 2014 11:43pm

UCSB fan confronts Hawaii coach on the court! (Video)
 
What is going on? People are totally out of control.
I'm going to have to spend some time this off-season seriously thinking about whether I wish to continue as an official.

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JetMetFan Fri Mar 07, 2014 07:55am

Here's the play/incident...

Hawai'i #32 and the Hawai'i HC both received Ts. The fan should've received an a**-whipping.


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JRutledge Fri Mar 07, 2014 08:03am

I am surprised the HC was not ejected. Maybe he got away with that when the fan came out of the stands.

BTW, looks like good blocks all the way around. It is called defense, they are allowed to play it too. ;)

Peace

BryanV21 Fri Mar 07, 2014 09:24am

As for whether there was a foul on one or both of the shots... I can't tell from the angle, but on the first shot attempt by the Hawaii player it looks like the defender may have gotten a little more than the ball. However, on the second shot attempt I've got nothing.

The tech on the player was correct. Even though he may have been fouled, that's no excuse to act the way he did.

And it surely should have been a tech on the HC for Hawaii. He was not only out far on the court, but he was pointing at the official and giving him an earful. The fact a fan goes out and gets in his face should have no bearing on whether a tech was granted.

I guess that since a tech was just called against the team, the officials decided not to call another.

letemplay Fri Mar 07, 2014 09:27am

Did anyone notice the Hawaii player that intercepts the fan and sort of shoves him away from his coach is NOT in the game at the time and comes off the bench to involve himself in the matter? Nothing escalated, but just think what could have happened..

grunewar Fri Mar 07, 2014 09:51am

Speaking of escalation, where was security? Game Management?

I know it's difficult to expect them to react quickly to in incident that happens quickly like this, but the guy was on the court for a while and THEN went all the way back to his seat before being escorted out. I would think someone should have reacted faster than that.......

PS - I heard on the radio this AM the FANatic was arrested, and rightly so.

scrounge Fri Mar 07, 2014 09:56am

So all the guy gets is some elderly usher escorting him out well after the incident?? Where's the cops?

SE Minnestoa Re Fri Mar 07, 2014 10:11am

After this incident, the fan should be in the pokey and have to be calling my son the defense attorney.

JRutledge Fri Mar 07, 2014 10:19am

Quote:

Originally Posted by letemplay (Post 926125)
Did anyone notice the Hawaii player that intercepts the fan and sort of shoves him away from his coach is NOT in the game at the time and comes off the bench to involve himself in the matter? Nothing escalated, but just think what could have happened..

I have no problem with anything these players did. They had wonderful restraint considering they do not know what this guy might have had or why he was there.

Peace

BryanV21 Fri Mar 07, 2014 10:34am

Quote:

Originally Posted by letemplay (Post 926125)
Did anyone notice the Hawaii player that intercepts the fan and sort of shoves him away from his coach is NOT in the game at the time and comes off the bench to involve himself in the matter? Nothing escalated, but just think what could have happened..

Not sure what you're saying. Would you eject the player for leaving the bench, like you would if a fight had started between two players on the court? I wouldn't. The player is protecting his coach from somebody that came out of the stands, meaning you don't know what the guy has on him or what his intentions may be.

Perhaps if all this occurred out of bounds and next to the fan, and the fan didn't go onto the court to confront the coach, I could see penalizing the player for pushing the fan. But in this case I'm definitely not penalizing him.

JetMetFan Fri Mar 07, 2014 11:20am

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 926130)
Speaking of escalation, where was security? Game Management?

I know it's difficult to expect them to react quickly to in incident that happens quickly like this, but the guy was on the court for a while and THEN went all the way back to his seat before being escorted out. I would think someone should have reacted faster than that.......

PS - I heard on the radio this AM the FANatic was arrested, and rightly so.

Security was my first thought. Not only was he on the court for a while but it's not as though he came from a courtside seat. He ran down a whole bunch of steps in the stands, past the media table and 50 feet across a basketball court before meeting with any resistance. He's lucky the Hawai'i players didn't knock him out cold right where he stood.

letemplay Fri Mar 07, 2014 11:33am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 926141)
Not sure what you're saying. Would you eject the player for leaving the bench, like you would if a fight had started between two players on the court? I wouldn't. The player is protecting his coach from somebody that came out of the stands, meaning you don't know what the guy has on him or what his intentions may be.

Perhaps if all this occurred out of bounds and next to the fan, and the fan didn't go onto the court to confront the coach, I could see penalizing the player for pushing the fan. But in this case I'm definitely not penalizing him.

No, not suggesting (in my view anyway) he be handled like coming off bench in a fighting situation. Just wanted to point it out for discussion. Suppose it was an opposing player, rather than the fan, that approached this coach? Then it may be different?

JRutledge Fri Mar 07, 2014 11:48am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 926148)
Security was my first thought. Not only was he on the court for a while but it's not as though he came from a courtside seat. He ran down a whole bunch of steps in the stands, past the media table and 50 feet across a basketball court before meeting with any resistance. He's lucky the Hawai'i players didn't knock him out cold right where he stood.

And he went back to his seat. No one grabbed him or asked him to be removed. I cannot think of many places at that level where that would be OK. He might have gotten across the floor, but he would not have gotten off the floor without someone in his face or having him on the floor.

Peace

Bad Zebra Fri Mar 07, 2014 11:48am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 926148)
Security was my first thought. Not only was he on the court for a while but it's not as though he came from a courtside seat. He ran down a whole bunch of steps in the stands, past the media table and 50 feet across a basketball court before meeting with any resistance. He's lucky the Hawai'i players didn't knock him out cold right where he stood.

Just...Wow. It would have served him right if a player leveled him. Hopefully UCSB identified him and dealt with him severely...and Hopefully the NCAA comes down hard on UCSB for poor game management. Amazing how long he was on the court and walked off with no response from security or arena personnel.

JRutledge Fri Mar 07, 2014 11:51am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra (Post 926153)
Just...Wow. It would have served him right if a player leveled him. Hopefully UCSB identified him and dealt with him severely...and Hopefully the NCAA comes down hard on UCSB for poor game management. Amazing how long he was on the court and walked off with no response from security or arena personnel.

He was identified and arrested I believe (not sure about the arrest part). I know his is facing judicial issues with his school (he is a student) and he could possibly be suspended or expelled him from school. That was reported this morning.

Peace


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