PC, Block or No-Call (video)

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

I see A1 fall because his momentum has taken him through a stationary defender that has LGP. A block/trip would be a brutal call here IMO. Its PC or nothing. Or you could call a bail out travel I guess.

That matches my opinion, but BNR doesn't care for it. I'm not going to result to insults though because someone doesn't agree with me.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

That matches my opinion, but BNR doesn't care for it. I'm not going to result to insults though because someone doesn't agree with me.

I find that response hilarious. Didn't you invent the use of that word in the forum?

[IUgrad92]

How does one have LGP when his foot is in the crotch of an offensive player?

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I find that response hilarious. Didn't you invent the use of that word in the forum?

Yes, he did.

[#olderthanilook]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Then what does it mean?

It means, call the game consistently. If a crew "no calls" something they think is worthy a no call on one end, no call it on the other.

But, that doesn't mean a 'no call' is the only option the next time there are bodies on the floor. If there is a foul, call the foul.

In either case, just be consistent.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Yes, he did.

In fact, he is the reason I have that phrase under my name...LOL

[IUgrad92]

Originally Posted by referee99

Everything about this play is consistent with the way this crew worked the game.

That would explain why this flop was still occurring even late in the game. It wasn't dealt with early on.......

[#olderthanilook]

Originally Posted by IUgrad92

That would explain why this flop was still occurring even late in the game. It wasn't dealt with early on.......

Behind the 8 ball from the get go. Not an enviable position.

[YooperRef]

I had a very similar play last night and went PC. I think this one goes PC also even though there may have been some embellishment by the defender.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by IUgrad92

How does one have LGP when his foot is in the crotch of an offensive player?

Good question if it were actually in his crotch. IBut, it was no where near his crotch. That foot was on the other side of the player and it didn't touch him...at least not in any way that had any bearing on what happened.

A1 went down because he stepped into B1's foot that was in the exact same spot at is was before B1 started falling backwards. In fact, I think A1's stumble actually had little to do with B1...it was coincidental.

I think this is a perfect example of a play that breaks the two whistles down must have a foul philosophy.

I think each player went to the floor more due to their own actions (flopping/embellishment and clumsiness) than the actions of their opponent. I don't think either player disadvantaged the other one.

[IUgrad92]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Good question if it were actually in his crotch. IBut, it was no where near his crotch. That foot was on the other side of the player and it didn't touch him...at least not in any way that had any bearing on what happened.

A1 went down because he stepped into B1's foot that was in the exact same spot at is was before B1 started falling backwards. In fact, I think A1's stumble actually had little to do with B1...it was coincidental.

I think this is a perfect example of a play that breaks the two whistles down must have a foul philosophy.

I think each player went to the floor more due to their own actions (flopping/embellishment and clumsiness) than the actions of their opponent. I don't think either player disadvantaged the other one.

Yeah, I see that now. But looking closer I see B1's left foot is on top of A1's left foot, thus when A1 goes to move/pick up his left foot he can't and it throws him off-balance.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by IUgrad92

That would explain why this flop was still occurring even late in the game. It wasn't dealt with early on.......

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook

Behind the 8 ball from the get go. Not an enviable position.

BTW, it wasn't an issue during the game. I watched the entire contest and it was well-played and well-officiated. The kid flopped - for those who think he did - because it was late in the game and he wanted to draw a PC foul. Not an unusual occurrence.

Trust me, if it had been an issue I would've posted the video

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook

It means, call the game consistently. If a crew "no calls" something they think is worthy a no call on one end, no call it on the other.

When "it" happens on the other end, it may be very similar, but still be worthy of a whistle.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by just another ref

When "it" happens on the other end, it may be very similar, but still be worthy of a whistle.

Don't pull a xxxxx and only report a snippet. If you quoted his whole post you would have seen that he clearly says cover the foul if it's there.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by deecee

Don't pull a xxxxx and only report a snippet. If you quoted his whole post you would have seen that he clearly says cover the foul if it's there.

That's right. That what renders the main theme useless.

This play was a no call. So if you have a similar play it should be a no call. Unless there's a foul, then you call a foul.

Be consistent.


Just call the game, which is a series of plays, some of which may be quite similar, yet have no bearing on each other.