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bainsey Mon Mar 03, 2014 01:51pm

Getting too choosy?
 
Last week, I got a text that travel league was looking for officials for some 7/8 games, held yesterday. My season finished a few weeks ago, and I had an itch, so I scratched and took three afternoon games. The pay wasn't that good ($25/game), but it was enough to warrant getting on the court and putting the funds toward my upcoming dues.

Game admin couldn't be better, coaches were quiet, kids were dropping one- liners ("I'm getting too old for this"), and even slapping hands with the opposing free-throw shooter. (That's a first. Pretty cool.)

The thing I overlooked when I scratched is I would be the only official on our board. The rest were some-timers and exclusively middle school guys. My partner was okay (said he left the board years ago, for work reasons), but did some annoying things, like overruled one of my OOB calls, and ruled a shooting foul on a clear block, with incidental contact afterward. (I was the L; he was on the division line.) Such things could warrant a low rating from our board.

I'm far from stellar, but I used to think I should take just about anything to improve. Now, I'm starting to think I should only work with people I know, or are on the board (who typically give a damn). Am I wasting my time with taking these games, or am I getting too choosy?

Welpe Mon Mar 03, 2014 01:53pm

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 925402)
Am I wasting my time with taking these games, or am I getting too choosy?

Only you can answer this but it sounds like you enjoyed yourself so I'd say that's probably a no.

Rich Mon Mar 03, 2014 02:23pm

Nobody should be faulted if they (1) want to work or (2) don't want to work.

bob jenkins Mon Mar 03, 2014 02:25pm

Sometimes you can learn just as much by seeing what not to do.

just another ref Mon Mar 03, 2014 02:45pm

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 925402)
overruled one of my OOB calls

Gonna need some more information here.

BigT Mon Mar 03, 2014 04:06pm

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 925402)
Last week, I got a text that travel league was looking for officials for some 7/8 games, held yesterday. My season finished a few weeks ago, and I had an itch, so I scratched and took three afternoon games. The pay wasn't that good ($25/game), but it was enough to warrant getting on the court and putting the funds toward my upcoming dues.

Game admin couldn't be better, coaches were quiet, kids were dropping one- liners ("I'm getting too old for this"), and even slapping hands with the opposing free-throw shooter. (That's a first. Pretty cool.)

The thing I overlooked when I scratched is I would be the only official on our board. The rest were some-timers and exclusively middle school guys. My partner was okay (said he left the board years ago, for work reasons), but did some annoying things, like overruled one of my OOB calls, and ruled a shooting foul on a clear block, with incidental contact afterward. (I was the L; he was on the division line.) Such things could warrant a low rating from our board.

I'm far from stellar, but I used to think I should take just about anything to improve. Now, I'm starting to think I should only work with people I know, or are on the board (who typically give a damn). Am I wasting my time with taking these games, or am I getting too choosy?

Bainsey

I have been dealing with this myself lately. I enjoy the money to pay for many things for the family and wife (she hasnt worked in 21 years). Sometimes having bad partners makes me regret wreck games. I work hard with my assignors and get my friends to go with me. Sometimes when it doesnt work out one night with someone new doesnt kill me and makes me appreciate friends. I work hard and not getting bad habits. In the end I enjoy it even if my game slides a little and its the price I pay. I would keep doing it and if you have a rough night take some time off to recharge your batteries.

JRutledge Mon Mar 03, 2014 04:10pm

If you leave your house and dread what you are about to embark, then you need to change something so that you do not have that feeling. Sometimes turning down games does just that fact.

Peace

BillyMac Mon Mar 03, 2014 05:04pm

Approved ...
 
I only work with guys who have an IAABO patch. Some of them don't go to all the meetings, take exams, etc., but they all have an up to date patch.

Rich Mon Mar 03, 2014 05:33pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 925497)
I only work with guys who have an IAABO patch. Some of them don't go to all the meetings, take exams, etc., but they all have an up to date patch.

You'd pass up the chance to work with a lot of us here because we don't wear a specific patch?

BillyMac Mon Mar 03, 2014 05:48pm

No Ifs, Ands, Or Buts About It ...
 
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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 925504)
You'd pass up the chance to work with a lot of us here because we don't wear a specific patch?

Connecticut is 100% IAABO. The only basketball officials that belong to any type of organization are IAABO officials. There are a few unorganized, independent guys with "Foot Locker" jerseys, officiating in sneakers, but these guys only work some travel games, and lower, no interscholastic games at all. If you want to work real basketball games in Connecticut, you have to belong to IAABO. Thirty-three years, thousands of games, and I've never worked a game with a partner who was not IAABO.

Nevadaref Mon Mar 03, 2014 06:59pm

In working stuff like this, make certain that you have insurance coverage!
If you can't determine if you partners will all have coverage, then you are probably better off staying away from the event.
You will know that people in your registered association have insurance, but outside of that you would have to do some checking. Don't put yourself in a bad spot.

Raymond Mon Mar 03, 2014 09:47pm

No such thing as being too choosy, we're independent contractors.

bainsey Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:14am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 925541)
In working stuff like this, make certain that you have insurance coverage!
If you can't determine if you partners will all have coverage, then you are probably better off staying away from the event.
You will know that people in your registered association have insurance, but outside of that you would have to do some checking. Don't put yourself in a bad spot.

Good point, Silver. Like BillyMac's state, Maine is 100% IAABO (five boards statewide) for high school basketball, and most middle schools. There's one small band in this area that works seven or eight middle schools.

IAABO has a rule that you can wear your IAABO-patched shirt in any game if your partner is IAABO. If he's not, no patch. This goes back to insurance reasons, of course.

AremRed Tue Mar 04, 2014 02:52am

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 925402)
7/8 games

I hope that means 7th and 8th grade not 7 or 8 games. :eek:

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 925402)
The pay wasn't that good ($25/game)

What is good pay in your area? Are these games an hour, or longer?

BillyMac Tue Mar 04, 2014 07:13am

We Don't Need No Stinkin' Anti Trust Laws ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 925579)
There's one small band in this area that works seven or eight middle schools.

Break up the band. Crush them. Blow them into oblivion. Under-price them. Over market yourself. Ruin their reputations with lies. Invite them to join your board, and then don't assign them any games, or only assign them middle school, and freshman games. Don't teach them the secret handshake. That's what we did about ten years ago. Now we're a monopoly. It's good to be the king.


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