Video Request of Kansas at Oklahoma State game.

[Rob1968]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Block. Defender still moving forward at the time of contact.

Camron, it seems his feet are stationary. Is the slight forward movement of his torso, as he straightens up, enough to consider the defender as still moving into the shooter?

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

I am a KU guy but if I am the L, we are going the other way with a PCF.

MTD, Sr.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Rob1968

Camron, it seems his feet are stationary. Is the slight forward movement of his torso, as he straightens up, enough to consider the defender as still moving into the shooter?

Yes. If the defender contacts opponent with his torso when the torso is still moving forward, that is not LGP, just like a lean into the path of an opponent who is slipping buy. I'd consider it different if the defender had already been there and was just "firming up", as some like to call it, but, in this play, he was just jumping into position and didn't get "there" yet.

[Rob1968]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Yes. If the defender contacts opponent with his torso when the torso is still moving forward, that is not LGP, just like a lean into the path of an opponent who is slipping buy. I'd consider it different if the defender had already been there and was just "firming up", as some like to call it, but, in this play, he was just jumping into position and didn't get "there" yet.

Thanks, Camron. It's a close one, and this season I've been concentrating on two aspects of such calls:
1) What did the defender do wrong?
2) How do I answer, specifically, if his coach asks me what he did wrong?

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I'd consider it different if the defender had already been there and was just "firming up", as some like to call it, but, in this play, he was just jumping into position and didn't get "there" yet.

"Firming up" was exactly what he was doing.

[JRutledge]

PC FOUL.

Peace

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by jrutledge

pc foul.

Peace

+1

[JugglingReferee]

I like the charge.

But I've always been a proponent of not enough PCs are called.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

I like the charge.

But I've always been a proponent of not enough PCs are called.

I would've agreed with you 15-20 years ago.

Today, however, I think too many officials default to the PC when there's a big crash rather than properly officiating the defense.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by AremRed

"Firming up" was exactly what he was doing.

No he wasn't. Firming up is when the player has already been in position, and just straightens up, not when they're trying to get their initial vertical position.