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JetMetFan Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:10am

Foul or Incidental (video)
 
You make the call...


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walt Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:14am

Foul. A2 stops and jumps from where she is trying to catch the pass and B1 runs into her. To me this is an easy one.

Welpe Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:16am

Looks like a foul on Red to me. The White team player is not wholly vertical but red is running towards her initiates the contact. Kind of like finding fault in an auto accident, they both are guilty but Red shares a larger amount of the blame IMO.

That said, I could live with a no call here.

twocentsworth Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:17am

Foul.

This play HAS to have a whistle!

JRutledge Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:38am

Foul on the defender. The white player is jumping in her vertical space and red comes in an bumps her out of the way.

Good call by the officials and certainly not incidental.

Peace

Camron Rust Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:13pm

Agree...red foul.

bob jenkins Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:16pm

Foul.

AremRed Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:17pm

Foul on the defender.

Indianaref Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:44pm

"That's a foul, ref!"

HokiePaul Thu Feb 20, 2014 01:04pm

foul (by defense). Contact was severe and the defender was not in an equally favorable position with the offensive player.

Rich Thu Feb 20, 2014 01:11pm

Foul on red. Wasn't even close, IMO.

jeremy341a Thu Feb 20, 2014 01:41pm

Foul on red 100 out of 100 times. This is not a case of equally advantageous positions.

#olderthanilook Thu Feb 20, 2014 02:02pm

redrum...redrum!!!! I mean, redfoul.

BatteryPowered Thu Feb 20, 2014 02:34pm

While neither was without fault, I agree with a foul on red.

I have to admit, since I started up again this is the call I have the most trouble with. Two players going for the ball and neither without fault...a play where the level of contact dictates you HAVE to have a whistle but on who. Until I get back into a better groove, see more, pick the brain of better officials, etc. I have just been giving the benefit of the doubt to the offensive player.

At least that way only one coach and half the gym is hissed off at me. :D

johnny d Thu Feb 20, 2014 04:20pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BatteryPowered (Post 923805)

I have to admit, since I started up again this is the call I have the most trouble with. Two players going for the ball and neither without fault...a play where the level of contact dictates you HAVE to have a whistle but on who.


The level of contact does not dictate whether or not you have to have a foul. Do not adopt this as a philosophy for identifying fouls. There can be all kinds of plays with severe contact between two players that do not require foul calls.


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