[deleted] Technically this defender is the primary defender, but does she become a secondary defender (thus Lead's primary) by going under the pick? This should be both officials holding and the Lead signalling, right?
bob jenkins AremRed wroteTechnically this defender is the primary defender, but does she become a secondary defender (thus Lead's primary) by going under the pick? If you look up the NCAAW definition of Secondary Defender, you will have your answer.
referee99 Art 1. A secondary defender is a teammate who has helped a primary defender after that player has been beaten by an opponent because she failed to establish or maintain a guarding position. A defensive player is beaten when the offensive players's head an shoulders get past the defender. There are no secondary defenders when the offensive player with the ball is within the lower defensive box when she starts her move to the basket.
[deleted] bob jenkins wroteIf you look up the NCAAW definition of Secondary Defender, you will have your answer. Thanks, but I am more interested in the Men's perspective.
JRutledge PC foul. Not sure how anyone can see this different. Again, I think officials often default to giving the foul to the defender. Peace
JetMetFan AremRed wroteThanks, but I am more interested in the Men's perspective. NCAAM is the same except for the last line about the LDB.
bob jenkins AremRed wroteThanks, but I am more interested in the Men's perspective. It's an NCAAW play, that's why I gave the answer I did.
[deleted] bob jenkins wroteIt's an NCAAW play, that's why I gave the answer I did. I understood that 🙂
onetime1 What is with the L official mechanic of just throwing both your hands in the air and then stopping your call? Kind of as if he then wanted to crawl inside a hole to disappear.
TriggerMN Wouldn't have a blarge here anyways. AFAIK, in NCAAW, you get together and choose one, never both.
bob jenkins TriggerMN wroteWouldn't have a blarge here anyways. AFAIK, in NCAAW, you get together and choose one, never both. That's correct for this type of play.
JRutledge TriggerMN wroteWouldn't have a blarge here anyways. AFAIK, in NCAAW, you get together and choose one, never both. I do not see why we would call it anything different. Both officials are still giving two different signals on the same play. Still looks very bad no matter what you end up doing. And I doubt that both coaches are going to be happy with the result. Just like when we have a double whistle and the one of the coaches "thinks" you have a different call than your partner. After all, there is no rules support for the term "Blarge." 😉 Peace