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Old Sun Feb 16, 2014, 12:35pm
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I'm with Bob. Looks to me like she stops any significant forward movement, but I'm not married to either call.

Either way, a travel is a horrible decision here.
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Old Sun Feb 16, 2014, 12:45pm
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I'm not married to either call.
They allow that now? Man. I thought that I lived in a liberal state (and, for the most part, proud of it)?
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Old Sun Feb 16, 2014, 01:07pm
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I'm with Bob. Looks to me like she stops any significant forward movement, but I'm not married to either call.

Either way, a travel is a horrible decision here.
I'm amazed at how many people use a travel to avoid making a tough block/charge decision. Like I've said to others, film don't lie. It may look like a travel if you completely ignore the contact, but that doesn't make the call any less wrong.

Truth is that some of these plays are close to 50/50 calls and the official on the spot, given good training, will just go with an initial instinct, and those of us sitting at home will pick the call apart.
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Old Sun Feb 16, 2014, 01:48pm
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I'm amazed at how many people use a travel to avoid making a tough block/charge decision. Like I've said to others, film don't lie. It may look like a travel if you completely ignore the contact, but that doesn't make the call any less wrong.

Truth is that some of these plays are close to 50/50 calls and the official on the spot, given good training, will just go with an initial instinct, and those of us sitting at home will pick the call apart.
My guess is all three officials took a good look at the video on this one after it was over (they've all been observers at camps I've attended). My first thinking when I saw the play was they may have pre-gamed "if someone hits the floor, let's make sure we have a whistle." Again, I'm just guessing here but I'm sure that's something we've all heard at one time or another.
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I just realized the call made was a travel. IMO, OUCH!!!
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Old Sun Feb 16, 2014, 03:39pm
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That's way close, but it is in no way a travel.
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Old Sun Feb 16, 2014, 04:31pm
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Block. Why are they not wearing white?
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Old Sun Feb 16, 2014, 07:00pm
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Block is what I think I'd have at game speed. Too much forward movement by the defense IMO, although I'm having trouble reconciling that from the endline view blue stopped her forward movement and after the collision is moving backward (to and through?).

Straight-lined travel call? She should get fired for making this call. Jus' kiddin' JD, jus' kiddin'. The travel is a cop out, though. Maybe the C should have button hooked? Is this even a 3 whistle technique? I'm stuck in 2 whistle purgatory...
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Old Sun Feb 16, 2014, 07:13pm
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Having looked at this in every way I can, I've got a PC. At the time of contact, the defender's feet are so far in front of her torso, the only way she could continue forward, and possibly into the ballhandler, would be to sit down.
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Old Sun Feb 16, 2014, 09:10pm
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PC I would call. It looks like the offensive player slams into and runs over the defensive player. The defensive player is standing between the basket and the basketball. It does not look like a travel violation at all. Catch pass start dribble no travel.
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Old Sun Feb 16, 2014, 09:52pm
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Old Sun Feb 16, 2014, 11:27pm
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Having looked at this in every way I can, I've got a PC. At the time of contact, the defender's feet are so far in front of her torso, the only way she could continue forward, and possibly into the ballhandler, would be to sit down.
That, in combination with where she came from, pretty much tells you she (specifically her torso) was moving forward. She jumped forward into that position but her torso was still coming up over her feet. It is probably impossible for a person to get their feet out like that otherwise.
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