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Adam Sun Feb 16, 2014 12:35pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 923083)
Add me to the PC votes

I'm with Bob. Looks to me like she stops any significant forward movement, but I'm not married to either call.

Either way, a travel is a horrible decision here.

BillyMac Sun Feb 16, 2014 12:45pm

And I'm Not Married To My Coffee Mug ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 923097)
I'm not married to either call.

They allow that now? Man. I thought that I lived in a liberal state (and, for the most part, proud of it)?

Rich Sun Feb 16, 2014 01:07pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 923097)
I'm with Bob. Looks to me like she stops any significant forward movement, but I'm not married to either call.

Either way, a travel is a horrible decision here.

I'm amazed at how many people use a travel to avoid making a tough block/charge decision. Like I've said to others, film don't lie. It may look like a travel if you completely ignore the contact, but that doesn't make the call any less wrong.

Truth is that some of these plays are close to 50/50 calls and the official on the spot, given good training, will just go with an initial instinct, and those of us sitting at home will pick the call apart.

JetMetFan Sun Feb 16, 2014 01:48pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 923103)
I'm amazed at how many people use a travel to avoid making a tough block/charge decision. Like I've said to others, film don't lie. It may look like a travel if you completely ignore the contact, but that doesn't make the call any less wrong.

Truth is that some of these plays are close to 50/50 calls and the official on the spot, given good training, will just go with an initial instinct, and those of us sitting at home will pick the call apart.

My guess is all three officials took a good look at the video on this one after it was over (they've all been observers at camps I've attended). My first thinking when I saw the play was they may have pre-gamed "if someone hits the floor, let's make sure we have a whistle." Again, I'm just guessing here but I'm sure that's something we've all heard at one time or another.

deecee Sun Feb 16, 2014 03:02pm

I just realized the call made was a travel. IMO, OUCH!!!

OKREF Sun Feb 16, 2014 03:39pm

That's way close, but it is in no way a travel.

Mregor Sun Feb 16, 2014 04:31pm

Block. Why are they not wearing white?

JRutledge Sun Feb 16, 2014 05:04pm

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Originally Posted by Mregor (Post 923129)
Block. Why are they not wearing white?

Because they do not have to.

Peace

Rooster Sun Feb 16, 2014 07:00pm

Block is what I think I'd have at game speed. Too much forward movement by the defense IMO, although I'm having trouble reconciling that from the endline view blue stopped her forward movement and after the collision is moving backward (to and through?).

Straight-lined travel call? She should get fired for making this call. Jus' kiddin' JD, jus' kiddin'. The travel is a cop out, though. Maybe the C should have button hooked? Is this even a 3 whistle technique? I'm stuck in 2 whistle purgatory...

Rob1968 Sun Feb 16, 2014 07:13pm

Having looked at this in every way I can, I've got a PC. At the time of contact, the defender's feet are so far in front of her torso, the only way she could continue forward, and possibly into the ballhandler, would be to sit down.

onetime1 Sun Feb 16, 2014 09:10pm

PC I would call. It looks like the offensive player slams into and runs over the defensive player. The defensive player is standing between the basket and the basketball. It does not look like a travel violation at all. Catch pass start dribble no travel.

Welpe Sun Feb 16, 2014 09:52pm

Put me down for a PC.

gojeremy Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:27pm

PC here too

Toren Mon Feb 17, 2014 01:04am

Block

Camron Rust Mon Feb 17, 2014 02:26am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob1968 (Post 923148)
Having looked at this in every way I can, I've got a PC. At the time of contact, the defender's feet are so far in front of her torso, the only way she could continue forward, and possibly into the ballhandler, would be to sit down.

That, in combination with where she came from, pretty much tells you she (specifically her torso) was moving forward. She jumped forward into that position but her torso was still coming up over her feet. It is probably impossible for a person to get their feet out like that otherwise.


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