The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:10pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 14,616
The thoughts posted below are purely my own:

#1, boys or girls? Girls seem to move the ball from side to side more. We don't rotate as often in girls'games.

#2, don't rotate until all 3 officials are in the FC. Then, we usually wait until the ball settles below the FT line extended.

#3, notice tendencies. Do they have a big man who posts up in the low post? Do they run plays to a certain side of the floor? Do they unbalance the floor? Those are also reasons to rotate.

#4, if the C moves toward the division line to officiate a matchup, you can rotate to that side of the floor.

#5, if the ball swings to the C's side but you anticipate a shot, hold your position and don't get caught moving across the lane with a shot in the air.

#6, when you rotate, move with purpose but focus on your matchup. Don't ball hawk while you rotate.

Help that helps.
__________________
"...as cool as the other side of the pillow." - Stuart Scott

"You should never be proud of doing the right thing." - Dean Smith
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:03pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Posts: 18,241
7. If you're looking across, go across. If you're looking on your side, stay.

8. If C has more matchups (and the ball) than s/he should be expected to handle, go across.

9. If the action pushes (or pulls) C high, go across.

Quote:
if I am say table side as I am sprinting down to take lead, and the ball comes up table side opposite,
Do you officiate in an MC Escher gym?
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jan 31, 2014, 08:29am
Official & Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,380
Quote:
Originally Posted by bob jenkins View Post
7. If you're looking across, go across. If you're looking on your side, stay.
To echo this...a wise old vet told me many years ago..."If it's interesting enough for you to look over there...then go there". Sounds pretty simplistic but I've always found it useful.
__________________
Calling it both ways...since 1999

Last edited by Bad Zebra; Fri Jan 31, 2014 at 08:32am.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jan 31, 2014, 08:45am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Richmond, VA
Posts: 102
10. If you're in one of those "dazes" during a blowout and you feel like you've been running back and forth in the same spot for an hour, rotate to wake everyone up!! I'm actually only half joking....Something I've found useful, I usually just mention it to my partners at halftime if we have an ugly game and see if anyone objects.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jan 31, 2014, 09:18am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Arlington, TX
Posts: 270
I was also taught that if the ball seems to be "hanging out" in the general area of the top of the key (middle third of the floor) you should close down to the lane line on you side of the floor. That will allow you to rotate more quickly. Just because you are not rotating does not mean you are not moving (a step or two) as lead be in better position.

It may be different in your world.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jan 31, 2014, 10:14am
Rich's Avatar
Get away from me, Steve.
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 15,797
Quote:
Originally Posted by BatteryPowered View Post
I was also taught that if the ball seems to be "hanging out" in the general area of the top of the key (middle third of the floor) you should close down to the lane line on you side of the floor. That will allow you to rotate more quickly. Just because you are not rotating does not mean you are not moving (a step or two) as lead be in better position.

It may be different in your world.
Mirror the ball. If it's at the top of the key, I'm closed down. I'm never closed down so that I'm "inside the ball" unless it's in the corner.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jan 31, 2014, 10:19am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: SLC Utah
Posts: 569
If you start a rotation and there is a quick shot or drive back out. Your partners will be watching that shot or drive and not see your rotation.
__________________
BigT "The rookie"
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jan 31, 2014, 10:35am
Adam's Avatar
Keeper of the HAMMER
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: MST
Posts: 27,190
Here, we move when:
1. The ball drops below the FT line extended on the C's side.
or
2. The C starts a 5 second count
or
3. The L finds himself looking across the paint at a matchup.

As far as transition, I won't wait for all the officials to get into the FC. I can always go back if the ball goes quickly the other way and the other two didn't have a chance to rotate. I'd rather have a good look at the play and worry about adjusting later if need be. If it's clear the play is on the other side of the lane and I have a chance to get over, I'll go.
__________________
Sprinkles are for winners.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:50pm
Rich's Avatar
Get away from me, Steve.
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 15,797
Quote:
Originally Posted by BktBallRef View Post

#2, don't rotate until all 3 officials are in the FC. Then, we usually wait until the ball settles below the FT line extended.
I don't worry much about the location of the ball or whether it settles there, anymore.

I do tend to rotate quite a bit. I go where I feel I am best serving the game as the L, even if it means a few rotations per possession.

Some of my thoughts:

If the C has a closely guarded count, the L should be moving over there.

If you think the ball could get thrown down into the post, it's too late to get over there once the post player has the ball. Get there before the pass comes in.

Listen to Bob.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Sat Feb 01, 2014, 12:45am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 14,616
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich View Post
I don't worry much about the location of the ball or whether it settles there, anymore.
I said the same thing, I just used fewer words.

I don't rotate to a side just because a pass goes to the C's side of the floor.

More times than not, if the ball settles below the FT line extended,
1- the C will probably have a closely guarded matchup
2- the C will have more matchups than he can handle
3- I'm probably looking to that side.
__________________
"...as cool as the other side of the pillow." - Stuart Scott

"You should never be proud of doing the right thing." - Dean Smith
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Sat Feb 01, 2014, 12:52am
Rich's Avatar
Get away from me, Steve.
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 15,797
Quote:
Originally Posted by BktBallRef View Post
I said the same thing, I just used fewer words.

I don't rotate to a side just because a pass goes to the C's side of the floor.

More times than not, if the ball settles below the FT line extended,
1- the C will probably have a closely guarded matchup
2- the C will have more matchups than he can handle
3- I'm probably looking to that side.
I'll rotate just as much if the ball settles above the FT line extended, though, as post players tend to set up on that side. It's just not a line that means a whole lot to me.
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old Sat Feb 01, 2014, 12:55am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 14,616
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich View Post
I'll rotate just as much if the ball settles above the FT line extended, though, as post players tend to set up on that side. It's just not a line that means a whole lot to me.
It was just a reference point to help the newbie who asked for laymen's terms. While you have a great feel for when to rotate, he doesn't.
__________________
"...as cool as the other side of the pillow." - Stuart Scott

"You should never be proud of doing the right thing." - Dean Smith
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
An easy question... NewNCref Baseball 3 Tue Mar 30, 2010 08:54pm
Easy question for the seasoned guys. JP21 Basketball 18 Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:47pm
Easy Question fastpitch Softball 1 Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:15am
Easy question for you guys... devdog69 Softball 14 Fri Jul 18, 2003 04:25pm
To those seasoned officials...yet another question dhodges007 Basketball 8 Thu Mar 29, 2001 04:34pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:12pm.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1