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Old Wed Jan 29, 2014, 10:43am
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Also, I hear McCaffrey got whacked after a non-call on a travel. Can someone post that sequence?

And please don't tell me I can browse to the play.
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Old Wed Jan 29, 2014, 11:47am
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Also, I hear McCaffrey got whacked after a non-call on a travel. Can someone post that sequence?

And please don't tell me I can browse to the play.
They got him for being out of the box arguing.

Less than 10 minutes later Izzo was on the floor arguing and nothing.
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Old Wed Jan 29, 2014, 11:57am
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+1 I am good with the no call.
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Old Wed Jan 29, 2014, 12:32pm
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I think it comes down to angles, as usual.

From the sideline camera, I'm good with a legal ruling. From the endline camera, I see #11 green come into the shooter and commit a blocking foul.
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Old Wed Jan 29, 2014, 12:27pm
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They got him for being out of the box arguing.

Less than 10 minutes later Izzo was on the floor arguing and nothing.
Track record. Right or wrong, those officials all saw McCaffrey get himself ejected earlier this season.
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Old Wed Jan 29, 2014, 01:24pm
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Also, I hear McCaffrey got whacked after a non-call on a travel. Can someone post that sequence?

And please don't tell me I can browse to the play.
For our video gurus, this sequence will be found starting at the 17:57 mark of the 2nd half. Definitely a travel. Definitely a coach out of his box reacting to a play.
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Old Wed Jan 29, 2014, 01:33pm
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For our video gurus, this sequence will be found starting at the 17:57 mark of the 2nd half. Definitely a travel. Definitely a coach out of his box reacting to a play.
It's a euro-step-and-a-step!
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I am not convinced the first one is a foul and can see why it was not called.

The second play the issue is when did the gather take place. I think a case can easily be made that the gather did not start until in the air and the left foot had already been off the floor.

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Old Wed Jan 29, 2014, 04:19pm
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I am not convinced the first one is a foul and can see why it was not called.

The second play the issue is when did the gather take place. I think a case can easily be made that the gather did not start until in the air and the left foot had already been off the floor.

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I agree with both of your comments. I took the time to slow down the second one and it's not as straight-forward as I thought when I watched it once this morning.

I still think it's a travel, though.
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Endline angle shows the foul in the first one.

The second is a clear travel as the left foot is definitely on the floor when the dribble has ended. This pivot foot then comes back down following a step with the right before the try is released. It does happen at high speed though in the live action. Easy call with slo-mo and freeze frame. Just don't get to officiate that way! Someone can post some still pics for others to confirm this.
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Old Wed Jan 29, 2014, 04:30pm
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First play I'm okay with no call.

Second play is a travel, even on the first day of the 9 & 10 year old league. Ball is resting in his hand before the left foot comes down the first time.
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So when did the T happen? Was the whistle right after the no-call for the T or for a timeout and then the Coach got whacked during the timeout?
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Old Fri Feb 14, 2014, 03:15pm
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Second play is a travel, even on the first day of the 9 & 10 year old league. Ball is resting in his hand before the left foot comes down the first time.
Per latest NCAA-Men's video, this play was a travel. (which, of course, I said myself )
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I am not convinced the first one is a foul and can see why it was not called.

The second play the issue is when did the gather take place. I think a case can easily be made that the gather did not start until in the air and the left foot had already been off the floor.

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No call seems reasonable in the first play.

The second is an obvious travel, at full speed or slow-mo. I can pause it at 0:23 and see the ball gathered with the left foot off the ground...before he puts it down! (for the first of two times after the gather)
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