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Raymond Tue Jan 28, 2014 08:14pm

Video Request: Our new favorite official (Clip Added)
 
Please, oh please, somebody tell me what W4 did wrong to earn a foul call at 17:51 of the 2nd half of the SMU/USF game on ESPNEWS.

Thanks APG:

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/e8Tg6T9lPcQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

AremRed Tue Jan 28, 2014 09:52pm

You can browse to the play here: ESPN3 -- SMU vs. USF

JugglingReferee Wed Jan 29, 2014 01:20am

Can someone still post it if it's not too much trouble?

Those outside of the US can't watch ESPN's stream.

Thanks.

SNIPERBBB Wed Jan 29, 2014 06:36am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 920181)
Can someone still post it if it's not too much trouble?

Those outside of the US can't watch ESPN's stream.

Thanks.

Nor most of us in the USA.

JetMetFan Wed Jan 29, 2014 07:18am

I'll try to post here and in the other thread sometime today. Hopefully my computer/internet aren't ice cold and comply.

Raymond Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:22am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 920186)
I'll try to post here and in the other thread sometime today. Hopefully my computer/internet aren't ice cold and comply.

You've forced me to send a text to APG to see if I can get better customer service. Since we're snowed in I know he's at home chilling...literally. :cool:

Lcubed48 Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:52am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 920257)
You've forced me to send a text to APG to see if I can get better customer service. Since we're snowed in I know he's at home chilling...literally. :cool:

Snowed in?

Raymond Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:52am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lcubed48 (Post 920278)
Snowed in?

Rare occasion where we get a bunch, and you don't.

APG Wed Jan 29, 2014 04:11pm

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/e8Tg6T9lPcQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

just another ref Wed Jan 29, 2014 04:17pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 920161)
Please, oh please, somebody tell me what W4 did wrong to earn a foul call at 17:51 of the 2nd half of the SMU/USF game on ESPNEWS.


Leaned into the path and clobbered the guy?

JRutledge Wed Jan 29, 2014 04:21pm

Looks to me like #4 got to the ball first and was run into by the red player. I would have no problem if there was simply a no-call here. But I do see why a call was made, just not a very good reason I can come up with what they did illegally.

Peace

Nevadaref Wed Jan 29, 2014 04:31pm

Looks like a foul by the defender for extending his arms into the path of the offensive player.

deecee Wed Jan 29, 2014 04:50pm

In all speeds this looked like a foul. How this would be a no call IMO is a tough sell.

Raymond Wed Jan 29, 2014 05:58pm

I see W4 with his hands on an airborne pass and then getting wiped out by R12 from behind.

I have a lot easier time explaining a no-call, 2 players arrive at the same point at the same time in equally advantageous positions, then I do explaining what W4 did wrong.

If R11 were still dribbling the ball, and this contact occurred, it would have been an illegal screen.

HawkeyeCubP Wed Jan 29, 2014 08:21pm

What Nevada said. And that arm extending and contacting the offensive player actually results in rerout/hold/displace type of contact foul.

I didn't like it at first in real time, but heck of a call after seeing it again.

Raymond Wed Jan 29, 2014 08:33pm

The contact is R12's shoulder and W4's face. W4 is the only one touching the ball at the time of the collision. Both are moving. Why is R12 entitled to that space?

deecee Wed Jan 29, 2014 08:36pm

Because unfortunately in this game ties go to the offense. I didn't think it were that close. Whites extended arms caused most of the initial contact/issue.

HawkeyeCubP Wed Jan 29, 2014 09:03pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 920424)
W4 is the only one touching the ball at the time of the collision.

Irrelevant, IMO.

just another ref Wed Jan 29, 2014 09:35pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 920424)
The contact is R12's shoulder and W4's face. W4 is the only one touching the ball at the time of the collision. Both are moving. Why is R12 entitled to that space?



That's because R12 is vertical and W4 is horizontal, extending his upper body into the path of R12.

Raymond Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:39pm

Guess I'm just going to have to be in the minority on this one.

Camron Rust Thu Jan 30, 2014 02:07am

Two players moving towards each other...offense wins....block.

JugglingReferee Thu Jan 30, 2014 01:10pm

I wish all calls were this easy. Reaching in.


JK. Block.

SNIPERBBB Thu Jan 30, 2014 02:49pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 920443)
Guess I'm just going to have to be in the minority on this one.

We call these fouls "sorry about your luck" fouls.


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