Duke vs Miami double foul vid request (Clip Added)

[maroonx]

1st quarter 7:16
One official called block on a duke player other official called charge on Miami player. 0nly 2 officials huddled. Ruled double foul. Miami gets throw- in on end line.

[constable]

Originally Posted by maroonx

1st quarter 7:16
One official called block on a duke player other official called charge on Miami player. 0nly 2 officials huddled. Ruled double foul. Miami gets throw- in on end line.

oh no. A blarge.

[Ref16]

Blow and hold!!! Blow and hold!!!....lol

A blarge is never fun, and although it sometimes makes no difference whether or not is discussed in the pregame-as far as I am concerned personally I will always discuss this in pregame and will always do my best to avoid such situations by waiting that second longer to make sure no blarge happens before I give a preliminary!

It happened to me a few years back, and I don't ever want it to happen again!

Originally Posted by maroonx

1st quarter 7:16
One official called block on a duke player other official called charge on Miami player. 0nly 2 officials huddled. Ruled double foul. Miami gets throw- in on end line.

You can browse to the play here: ESPN3 -- Miami v. Duke

Lead (Jamie Luckie) had a charge and C (Tony Greene) had a block. Looks like any easy block as the defender lost LGP when moving forward.

[MathReferee]

Best Dickie V comment in response to the realization they are calling a double foul: "They are just making everyone happy."

That's our goal in administering the rules, just make sure everyone is happy...

[APG]

[ballgame99]

I don't see an immediate signal from C, so why bother with the huddle and double foul? Plus isn't that L's call all the way?

I don't have a problem with the PC here. Tough call with the offense coming in hot like that.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

I don't see an immediate signal from C, so why bother with the huddle and double foul? Plus isn't that L's call all the way?

I don't have a problem with the PC here. Tough call with the offense coming in hot like that.

I think he banged his hips before he came into view.

It's a block - the C is correct. Why penalize the offense for "coming in hot?"

[APG]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

I don't see an immediate signal from C, so why bother with the huddle and double foul? Plus isn't that L's call all the way?

I don't have a problem with the PC here. Tough call with the offense coming in hot like that.

The center most definitely signaled a blocking foul right away.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Rich

I think he banged his hips before he came into view.

It's a block - the C is correct. Why penalize the offense for "coming in hot?"

Agree.

Not sure how the L saw this as PC. Doesn't really even look that close. Different angles, I guess.

[tjones1]

I don't mind C having a whistle but I think he has to give L first crack. That being said I think the C got the call right.

From the sideline view looks like a charge, but looking at the end line view I have a block.

[ballgame99]

Originally Posted by Rich

It's a block - the C is correct. Why penalize the offense for "coming in hot?"

I'm not penalizing him for it, I'm just saying it makes the call tougher because it makes any small forward movement by the defense harder to detect.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Rich

I think he banged his hips before he came into view.

It's a block - the C is correct. Why penalize the offense for "coming in hot?"

Agree.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by tjones1

I don't mind C having a whistle but I think he has to give L first crack. That being said I think the C got the call right.

From the sideline view looks like a charge, but looking at the end line view I have a block.

Transition. I have no problem in transition with the C getting that.

[APG]

Originally Posted by tjones1

I don't mind C having a whistle but I think he has to give L first crack. That being said I think the C got the call right.

From the sideline view looks like a charge, but looking at the end line view I have a block.

I agree that the L should get first crack at this...especially since this is a defender trying to slide laterally into position to take the charge. The lead is in the best position to see that side to side movement. The C can have a whistle on this but he needs to hold any preliminary signal and/or have a later (cadence) whistle IMO.

As is, the C had the right call IMO.